Problematic pedal board

Frusciante

Hi folks,

New to this forum, hope to learn some tricks/tips from it.


At the moment, I have a pedal board that isn't doing all it should. Hoping someone here can shed some light, please.
 I recently purchased a Big Muff for it, and I like the sounds coming from it. However, it doesn't work when in conjunction with my Cry Baby pedal. It will work without, as will the CB, but not together. Scratching my head on this one.  Can anyone here help, please? All other pedals are okay.

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Thanks

Mike

MikkiMcMurderer

Hey dude

Most folks put the drives and fuzzes after the wah. Have you tried that? A big muff before a wah would be very extreme sounding. I would go wah, compressor, overdrive, muff, noise gate.

Grunfeld

Someone with a bigger brain than mine will come along in a minute and mention "buffers". 
I have an inkling that the specific combination of some wahs and some fuzzes can be mighty tricksy -- and the solution is put a buffer in front of the pair of them (or possibly between them).  The usual buffer being a Boss tuner pedal like a TU-2 or TU-3.

That could be bollox.. but we'll find out shortly!

Oh, and wah before fuzz sounds different to wah after as Mick has mentioned but that's preference for different sounds rather than a not-working issue.

Frusciante

Thanks Mr Mc Murderer! I'll give that a go in a minute ! Cheers too, Grunfeld, time to do the pedalboard shuffle!

Frusciante

Moved the pedals around, and still nothing. Also tried swapping guitar and amp leads. Still nothing. Strange. 

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Frusciante

This is getting silly now! Been trying different layout. Some things work ok, then they don't work at all. Sometimes get a whistle, too! FFS!

skunkwerx

Hmmm. 

From what I can find, the lil big muff draws 100ma, and your power supply gives 300. So it should be powered fine. 

But have you tried plugging the fuzz into a different output on your power supply? Maybe swap it with another pedal on your board to see if its a bad output on your power supply. 

Secondly, run the wah and fuzz together but run them off of batteries to completely eliminate any power supply issues. 

I dunno man have you got long cables at all? Long cables and wahs can suck a lot out of your sound, hence why others have mentioned buffers. 

When you say they dont work together, do you literally mean they dont power on at all, or do they switch on but just sound way shit together? 

Grasping at straws here but have you tried using a different patch cable that links the muff to the wah? 

What if you just ran guitar into wah, into fuzz into amp. What happens then? Same deal? 

Am wondering if the noise filter is having something to do with it. 

Wazmeister

99% of the time, imho, it is the power supply

Cookiemonster

Yep power is always main issue. However I've had that ehx and it was fine with the wah 

Frusciante

Thanks lads, I'll be checking the patch cables when I get the chance!  Along with the power cables

MikkiMcMurderer

If it's a case of no sound at all then just build up one pedal at a time starting with wah only straight to amp then add compressor etc. Isolate the issue and you'll be golden.

MikkiMcMurderer

Are you sure your noise gate isn't set with the  threshold too high?

Frusciante

Narrowed it down to a dodgy patch cable! Thanks for your help, brothers! Pedals now in order you suggested Mikki!

MikkiMcMurderer

Good on you mate!

Frusciante

Cheers!