nut size

gr1

ive just bought my first guitar its an aj220s im learning chords. I friend of mine who played over 15yrs ago seem think the neck at the nut end is too slim

digitalscream

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Sporky

From a quick google it has a 1 11/16" nut, which is pretty normal. 1 3/4" isn't unusual and is a teeny bit wider (just under 1.6mm) so will feel different, but it sounds like your friend is just used to a wider nut. Neither precludes learning to play well.

gr1

thanks he seem to think so. he thought it was for small handed people. an example I was asking about playing the a chord I think its that. how I couldn't get top string of the 3 to ring out no room if that makes sense

gr1

would it be easier to play with a wider neck. I know classics have a wider neck but I don't realy like the sound compared to steel strings

Sporky

It might, but it's unlikely that's the limiting factor if you've just started playing. At first it's always a struggle to cram all your fingers into what feels like very limited space, but it gets much easier.

gr1

thanks ill just carry on. but so much to learn but happy i started. any tips on the a chord the one with 3 finger i think on adg string

gr1

sorry if this is boring for you. i just cant get the top string to ring out to far from the fret ive tried the triangle method but takes an age to get fingers into position i want to learn a few chords before much needed lessons

gr1

digitalscream I see you added a comment but cant find it please advise

ICBM

gr1 said:

ive just bought my first guitar its an aj220s im learning chords. I friend of mine who played over 15yrs ago seem think the neck at the nut end is too slim

Sporky said:

From a quick google it has a 1 11/16" nut, which is pretty normal.

Your friend is wrong.

George Harrison had quite big fingers, and he could play chords cleanly on a Rickenbacker 12-string, which only has a neck width of 1-5/8" and twice the number of strings on it.

I find that a challenge, but I don't have the talent of George, and I haven't practiced enough... most of it comes down to that, more than talent.

One of the traps that a lot of people fall into when they're starting is thinking that because they can't do something, that there's something wrong with the guitar. While it *is* possible for that to be true, with the standard of even budget guitars nowadays it's becoming rarer. It may be worth having someone check the set-up, since that can make things harder if it's not particularly good, but that's more to do with the action (including at the nut) than the string spacing.

After that, unfortunately it's just all down to putting the hours in to make your fingers learn the shapes and moves - it can be a bit slow at first, but work at it and it will come. Once you're past the initial clumsiness it gets easier, honestly!

Sporky

gr1 said:

sorry if this is boring for you. i just cant get the top string to ring out to far from the fret ive tried the triangle method but takes an age to get fingers into position i want to learn a few chords before much needed lessons

Not boring at all.

If I was starting again I'd go for lessons with a good teacher straight away - it'll get you learning faster and avoiding any habits that might hold you back later.

I still remember how hard it was to switch from one chord to another - that is completely normal, and you will get better and better at it as you develop muscle memory. That just takes practice.

Sassafras

In my experience it's possible to learn on pretty much anything.
With time and determination, it will all fall into place.
It's good that you're actually listening to what you're playing. A surprising amount of people don't seem to do that.

fields5069

I can't believe that I started on a classical with a baseball bat for a neck, albeit one with a "crossover" nut width of 48mm. I just don't know how my 11-year-old hands could have managed with cowboy chords. I got the guitar back recently, it was my mum's and it's been around the family, and now it feels good although the barre towards the end of Spanish Romance part 1 is still a bugger to get right.

AliGorie

gr1 said:

ive just bought my first guitar its an aj220s im learning chords. I friend of mine who played over 15yrs ago seem think the neck at the nut end is too slim

your 15 yr playing buddy dont find the aj neck good - right - he has had enough playing time to come to that conclusion - u need to give it time to learn how to best configure u'r fingers so chording is second nature.
Think of it this way - you love the sound of - say the mandolin or banjo or any small f/board instrument sounds like u'd just give up cause ALL the f/b's / necks are WAY to narrow.
All this pickiness is a first world problem, theres kids all around the world playing old plywood guitars most in the 'western world' wouldn't touch, making music and having fun.
I started playing in the uk in the sixties, on old European plywood guitars that were not easy to play and the corrosion on the strings would take u'r skin off doing a slide and they sounded horrible - but I really wanted to play - so I did.
If u want to play - you'll play, 'just do it.
 

richardhomer

Worrying about whether your nuts are 'average' or not is perfectly normal....

dazzer22

my washburn has a Nut Width: 1-11/16" and I like it   -  Its true  if you have big hands a smaller string spacing might not be good , Don’t always listen to people when they say it shouldn’t matter , if you want proof come to my home and I will show you , even with one finger holding down the string you can see the side of the finger slightly touching one of the other string  , these are just the laws of physics there is know special way to play to stop it touching if your fingers are big , although I don’t have this problem with a lot of guitars and its why you should try it out before buy them

proggy

richardhomer said:

Worrying about whether your nuts are 'average' or not is perfectly normal....

I'm glad you said that. I'm a bit concerned that one of mine is bigger than the other two.