eBay - buyer arranging collection

CHrisP86

Is this a bad idea?  

I presume the buyer could pretend they never picked it up and get their money back from PayPal/eBay?

Chalky

Paypal and post, or cash and collection are both ok.

Paypal and collection is "sure you can have my guitar for nothing!" 

I had one try it with me a while back.  All sorts of excuses were made by the buyer but I just said it was against ebay rules.

spark240

Just take a picture of them taking it away...

ICBM

spark240 said:

Just take a picture of them taking it away…

For your own amusement, if you like! It has no other value to Ebay.

Strangefan

spark240 said:

Just take a picture of them taking it away...




Yup  what he said, you could even get them to sign a receipt when take a pic, all they have to do say their account was hacked and... Well. Good bye money and guitar. 

CHrisP86

Thanks, guys.

Re-enforced my initial thoughts but I’m a cynical bugger and wanted to make sure I wasn’t going mad.

lukedlb

just to be clear for the future, if I buy an amp on ebay, pay with paypal, and then arrange collection by a courier, it would be against ebay rules?
I only ask as a mate was trying to do the same thing as he doesn't trust other couriers and prefers to go through one of his choice.

ICBM

lukedlb said:

just to be clear for the future, if I buy an amp on ebay, pay with paypal, and then arrange collection by a courier, it would be against ebay rules?
I only ask as a mate was trying to do the same thing as he doesn't trust other couriers and prefers to go through one of his choice.

It's not against Ebay rules, but the seller would be unwise to allow it since they're opening the door to a chargeback scam, if you were someone dishonest. There are many sellers who either don't know this or are willing to take the risk though.

If you're the seller, nothing other than shipping it to the buyer's confirmed Paypal address via a tracked, signed-for courier arranged by the seller holds any water as proof of delivery with Ebay.

lukedlb

ICBM said:

lukedlb said:

just to be clear for the future, if I buy an amp on ebay, pay with paypal, and then arrange collection by a courier, it would be against ebay rules?
I only ask as a mate was trying to do the same thing as he doesn't trust other couriers and prefers to go through one of his choice.

It's not against Ebay rules, but the seller would be unwise to allow it since they're opening the door to a chargeback scam, if you were someone dishonest. There are many sellers who either don't know this or are willing to take the risk though.

If you're the seller, nothing other than shipping it to the buyer's confirmed Paypal address via a tracked, signed-for courier arranged by the seller holds any water as proof of delivery with Ebay.

Thank you for the explanation. As only a buyer. and a paranoid one at that, I forget to consider the cautions a seller should take. 

Sassafras

spark240 said:

Just take a picture of them taking it away...

You might be able to enter a photographic competition with it but it won't help you get your guitar and money back.

TimberG

I have had this and suspected the buyer was not in this country ( and was confirmed by the polish courier who collected the amp), there is a scam going on at the moment whereby someone will pay via paypal and then once you have had the items collected they reverse the credit card payment saying their card was stolen, what this means to you is you loose all your money as paypal has to abide by the credit card peoples terms and conditions and offer a full refund therefore no money and no goods and you also have to pay the eBay fee's. Ebays stance on this is once the transaction has gone through its up to the you the seller to get paid and its not their responsibility (Ebay's words not mine as I contacted the on line help).

What i did was to cancel the transaction and demand that if they still wanted to collect via a courier the courier had to bring hard cash with them and i wouldn't let the item go until i had counted and tested each note. which they did and the notes were fine.

Hope this helps

Chalky

ICBM said:

lukedlb said:

just to be clear for the future, if I buy an amp on ebay, pay with paypal, and then arrange collection by a courier, it would be against ebay rules?
I only ask as a mate was trying to do the same thing as he doesn't trust other couriers and prefers to go through one of his choice.

It's not against Ebay rules, but the seller would be unwise to allow it since they're opening the door to a chargeback scam, if you were someone dishonest. There are many sellers who either don't know this or are willing to take the risk though.

If you're the seller, nothing other than shipping it to the buyer's confirmed Paypal address via a tracked, signed-for courier arranged by the seller holds any water as proof of delivery with Ebay.

I say "against ebay rules" because it has the desired effect on the potential scammer.

Its also important to note that as well as Ebay taking no notice of 'proof' like passports or driver's licence, neither will the Police - they will take no action.  You have been warned.

CHrisP86

The guy is quite persistent, but I’m not getting involved.  Far too likely to be a scam although he has near perfect eBay feedback.

hotpickups

Maybe off subject but how does one check notes are counterfeit or not these days ? @TimberG ;

midlifecrisis

hotpickups said:

Maybe off subject but how does one check notes are counterfeit or not these days ? @TimberG ;

send them to me and if the're fake il destroy them for you