The Fractal Thread

mrkb

makes sense to me - you can kill off the price gouging on ebay by letting people go direct. I suspect its a tiny fraction of people willing to do that anyway - so its not a big earner.

Jonathanthomas83

True enough mate

Cabicular

I still think it is bizarre.
i can’t imagine any other company doing that

guitarfishbay

Someone’s going to try and make some money on a waitlist... why not the company instead of some speculators on eBay.

They should’ve offered it from the start though, this is a bit bizarre doing it after people have been on the waitlist for a while already.

People will judge them for it and fair enough. It’s fairly logical from a short term view standpoint. Long term it may well tar their image or maybe people will forget about it in a month or two when supply is greater.

Jonathanthomas83

In the interests of transparency and free speech, they deleted the thread about it over on the Fractal forum. They really can't take a bashing, can they.

Cabicular

guitarfishbay said:

Someone’s going to try and make some money on a waitlist... why not the company instead of some speculators on eBay.

They should’ve offered it from the start though, this is a bit bizarre doing it after people have been on the waitlist for a while already.

People will judge them for it and fair enough. It’s fairly logical from a short term view standpoint. Long term it may well tar their image or maybe people will forget about it in a month or two when supply is greater.

But they are a professional company, I’m not a fan of EBay profiteers. I don’t think Fractal should be in such a hurry to join them.
its bizarre behaviour to my mind.
Can you imagine Boss or line 6 or even Kemper doing this? Just part of Cliffs ‘uniqueness’ I guess

guitarfishbay

It’s a physical product, I couldn’t name another company who has, but professional service providers do this kind of thing. See some mix/mastering engineers who have rush rates for people who can’t wait for their usual turnaround time.

If it was me I wouldn’t have chosen to do it, it’s a small amount of money for a potential amount of brand image damage.

duotone

Cabicular said:

An extra $1000 to jump the waitlist
they really do have some odd business practices 

Keep meaning to try some of the Fractal gear, but stuff like this really puts me off.  I assume they throw in some extra stuff as well for the $1000?

Jonathanthomas83

Don't let it put you off. It's tasteless, IMO, but it doesn't take away from what an incredible product they have.

No, nothing extra for your money.

gibsongretschfan

$1000 to jump the queue is an absolute joke and anyone defending it has to have their head seen to

Jonathanthomas83

No one can defend it or say anything bad about it because they've deleted, and thus cencored, the thread complaining about it. That's the bit that gets me.

mattismetal

It’s nonsense. It’s not like it’s one bloke hand soldering nos transistors into a mojo circuit. One at a time. 

for all anyone knows, they’ve got 10000 sat in a warehouse ready to go

any criticism of it renders the stock replies:
 
Can’t you just enjoy the sound,
does it matter? cliffs a genius.

ask where it’s made and no one gives a straight answer. Just abuse and vague claims of USA USA 
ask why it’s so expensive and get told, If you can’t afford it leave the forum and buy a pod you pleb.

It’s just weird and no one else would get away with it.

guitarfishbay

If people want to pay it then let them.

I never saw the thread, but I can imagine it didn’t go down well.

Ultimately it seems an action that’ll cost them significantly more hassle than it’ll earn them in a few extra higher profit unit sales. Didn’t seem worth it to me.

mattismetal

guitarfishbay said:

If people want to pay it then let them.

I never saw the thread, but I can imagine it didn’t go down well.

Ultimately it seems an action that’ll cost them significantly more hassle than it’ll earn them in a few extra higher profit unit sales. Didn’t seem worth it to me.

Absolutely

gibsongretschfan

...wouldn’t catch Line 6 doing this...........

Heartfeltdawn

I like it. It reinforces the image of Fractal being a stubborn obstinate company who do things their way, a bit like Rickenbacker and their maniacal trademark protection with regard to clones on Ebay. As quirky as both companies are, you don't tend to hear complaints about the quality of their products, yes?

John_P

Has anyone tried buying presets?    
While I have some free time this week I’m looking at the sounds I use and tempted to try one of the packs from Glenn Delaune - any reviews?  

peteri

Austin buddy - Naked Amps best purchase ever. 

Moke -signature (sounds from a song) , er not so much. 

Glenn -on a Helix, good but a funny way of getting sounds for me which I couldn’t learn from

Clarky

Cabicular said:

An extra $1000 to jump the waitlist
they really do have some odd business practices 

exploitation of the world's ADHD kids I reckon

Clarky

mattismetal said:

ask where it’s made and no one gives a straight answer. Just abuse and vague claims of USA USA 
ask why it’s so expensive and get told, If you can’t afford it leave the forum and buy a pod you pleb.

It’s just weird and no one else would get away with it.

I thought FAS did answer..
chassis and minor boards made in China
final assembly, major boards and firmware installed and tested in the USA