C18Q1. TTony goes mad.

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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 3044
    Isn't two humbuckers technically four pickups?
    Stranger from another planet welcome to our hole - Just strap on your guitar and we'll play some rock 'n' roll

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24579
    paulnb57 said:
    Isn't two humbuckers technically four pickups?
    Series/Parallel switch it is then ;)
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    There'll be no progress today either.

    Had a call at 0800 offering us  70-80 tonnes of decent topsoil (FOC!) .  So, my morning has been removing some fences, and shifting a few of tons of gravel off the driveway, so there's somewhere to put it all.

    Luckily I had assistance from a man with a mini-digger
    :D

    NTD thread later?
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24579
    TTony said:
    There'll be no progress today either.

    Had a call at 0800 offering us  70-80 tonnes of decent topsoil (FOC!) .  So, my morning has been removing some fences, and shifting a few of tons of gravel off the driveway, so there's somewhere to put it all.

    Luckily I had assistance from a man with a mini-digger
    :D

    NTD thread later?
    Pics of Mini-digger or GTFO!!
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    No pics this time
    :(

    But when he comes back, I'll take some muddy mini digger pics, just for you.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    After the  unfortunate discovery that a  neck intended for a LP doesn't really fit into a LP DC ... I've had to do a quick re-think and re-work.

    Luckily, the TTony workshop stocks are sufficient to accommodate a slight change in plan.  So, I'm keeping the neck and will build a new body around it.  *If* time permits towards the end of Q1, then I might try to build a neck to fit the original DC body.  Big IF.

    Time to build a LP-shaped body, with a couple of P90s.  Mahog body, thin maple top.

    Body partly shaped, just so that I can do enough work on the neck pocket to make 101% sure that all will be well ...



    I might use that top (which needs jointing) which is only c3.5mm thick, so will be flat fronted with just a bit of roundover. 

    Or I might use another one that's a bit thicker.  Trouble is, if I use the thicker one, it's thick enough for some carving, so  I'll feel that I *should* do the carving!

    Nice tight fit in the pocket - though it's not routed out to depth yet.


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  • Andyjr1515Andyjr1515 Frets: 3127
    You leave us hanging for 5 days @TTony ...  ;)

    What was the decision ref thin top flat vs thick top carve?
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    You leave us hanging for 5 days @TTony ...  ;)

    What was the decision ref thin top flat vs thick top carve?
    No decision yet Mr Andy.

    Been a bit busy here to get any workshop time, without incurring the wrath of Mrs TT.  Plus it's been a bit nippy out there, so I've not really felt too inclined to do workshop things.  Plenty of time, plenty of time ...
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    And I'm back in the room.

    Had to get a few things sorted out before my recently surgery, and today's been the first day post-op that I've felt like doing anything workshop-py.

    There was a bit of a "gotcha" with that LP body that I was working on.  I jointed it at the same time as I was doing my cabinet making course, so I made use of Mr Cabinet Maker's kit to thickness it, and square up the edges for jointing.

    He recommended using biscuits for the joint, so I did.

    Naturally, when I started routing the neck pocket, I revealed a biscuit at the bottom of where I wanted the pocket to me.

    I guess it wouldn't have fatally compromised the neck join, but I would have always known that it was there.  So, I had to increase the depth of the neck pocket sufficiently to get past the biscuit, and the pocket that it was sat in.  That in turn meant that the neck was set too deep to allow for the thick maple cap (which would have been carved).

    So, it's got the thin (3.5mm) cap on top - all glued and clamped and left to set overnight.

    To get the neck angle, I drew it all out full size.  The pocket needed to be 5mm deeper at the outside end than the inside end.  I measured the angle at 2.5deg - which seems to be in the acceptable range for a LP style neck join.  I then worked out the angle trigonometrically just to double check.  2.43deg.  Close enough for me!


    Might get to do some more tomorrow.

    3 guitars in 3 months is looking a bit more of a challenge now!
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    Yesterday ...



    That bit of hardboard underneath the body went over the top of the cap when I glued it on - just to protect the cap from the clamps.  I glued it and left it clamped overnight.



    And this morning ...

    Cut the cap to shape and put the p'up cavities in, rounded over the sides, belly carve, and quick bit of sanding.





    There is a cock-up on this - or an opportunity to apply a creative solution  - but more on that later.  (Depends on how creative I decide to be, including the option to just leave it as-is!).

    I'll use some of the body and cap offcuts to try out (crimson stain) colour options.

    Now for some more sanding ...
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  • normula1normula1 Frets: 639
    a learning opportunity always..... unless the same mistake is made twice, then it becomes an opportunity for a wet fish to meet your skull with a slapping motion :)
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8590
    TTony said:

    There is a cock-up on this - or an opportunity to apply a creative solution  - but more on that later.  (Depends on how creative I decide to be, including the option to just leave it as-is!).
    A fool doesn’t learn from his mistakes, but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. 
    So, spill the beans ...
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    Roland said:

    So, spill the beans ...



    When I made the neck cavity, I didn't put it far enough into the body.  So, when the neck is fitted, there's a 13mm gap between the end of the fretboard and the first edge of the p'up cover.

    Which looks a bit naff.

    Option 1,
    Increase the size of the neck p'up cavity to take a HB.  Combination of the wider p'up and the HB surround would reduce the gap to about 7-8mm. 
    Still naff.

    Option 2,
    Extend the neck cavity further into the body, and move the bridge back a corresponding amount (bridge holes not yet drilled, so this is viable.  But I've only got 9mm that I could extend the neck cavity.  Could do that, and trim 4mm off the end of the neck tenon.
    Doable.

    Option 3,
    Take a piece of offcut from the cap, and trim it to fit over the 13mm gap, matching the grain as closely as possible.  This is doable because there's only any visible grain on the treble edge.  Needs some precision cutting, and might still look odd.
    Doable


    Or, as I've found in the past, there's often a really simple and obvious Option 4, that's staring me in the face, but I've completely missed it!
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 24601
    TTony said:
    TTony said:

    Thirdly. 
    A 1 pickup monster to complete my set (see a following post).


    #1


    and #2


    The p'up in #2 is now a P90, so the 3-2-1 build will complete the set of single P-Up guitars, seeing as I've got single coil, P90, and the 3-2-1 build will use a HB.


    [edit]
    Those first 2 are both Ash bodies too.  I like to keep things neat and well ordered.
    I really like that ..

    Remember, it's easier to criticise than create!
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 16546
    edited February 2018
     Option 2 or 3 will work well.  If going for 3 I would inlay stripes on the join to highlight it’s a deep tenon.

    i would only do option 1 if it’s what you actually want
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  • poopotpoopot Frets: 9098
    edited February 2018
    Go for the creative and simple option 4!..

    build another body that fits the neck and another neck that fits that body...


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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    WezV said:
    i would only do option 1 if it’s what you actually want
    Yup - it's definitely not what I want.  It was my first thought, but it's not a full solution, and I'd prefer twin P90s to a HB/P90 mix.

    Option 3 is the easiest, and I'm hoping won't look too odd once it's done ...

    poopot said:
    Go for the creative and simple option 4!..

    build another body that fits the neck and another neck that fits that body...

    :P @poopot.
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8590
    Option 5. Leave it, and live with a neck heavy Les Paul. (Not as neck heavy as an SG).

    I’d go with option 3.
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  • WezV said:
     Option 2 or 3 will work well.  If going for 3 I would inlay stripes on the join to highlight it’s a deep tenon.

    i would only do option 1 if it’s what you actually want
    Yes - this would be my option too.  If you can't hide it, flaunt it!

     If it was mine, I would find some capping with similar figure match, but break the eye view with a contrasting demarcation strip either side, probably matching the wood of either the fretboard or headstock.

    Great cap, by the way.  All these builds are looking very splendid!
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27345
    Having slept on it, option 3 is definitely the way to go.

    Surprisingly, no-one spotted the much easier and much prettier solution that I'd completely missed, despite it staring me in the face (which is what usually happens in these situations)!

    Meanwhile, body #3 is thicknessed, jointed and bandsaw cut to within 1-2mm of size.



    Yup., looks pretty ugly.  The back is prettier.

    But I don't care because it's getting capped
    :D

    Cap also jointed and is now in the clamps ...


    So, an Ash/Walnut combination.

    The Ash is from some stuff that I bought years ago, and has already provided a body or 3.  This piece is pretty heavy though.

    I thicknessed it to 35mm and the top is c10mm - which'll produce a reasonably standard 45mm body thickness. 

    Rather than thicknessing it some more and making a slimline Strat, I I think it's going to get chambered to take some weight out.
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