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GassageGassage Frets: 20534
So, my beloved hound and baby girl appears to be very poorly.

I have no idea what is causing everything, but there's deffo a heart murmur, coughing, lethergy, tiredness, no appetite at all.

She's coming 13 now, and a month ago was running up mountains.

To say I'm worried is the understatement of the year. I am, bluntly, petrified.

Anyone else add to the symptoms/issues/ideas/thoughts?

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  • boogiemanboogieman Frets: 5129
    Firstly, sorry to hear she’s not well. We lost our Labrador to liver failure four months ago and still miss him every single day. People will tell you “it’s only a dog” but they become so much a part of your life. 

    I take it you’ve taken her to the vet? It could be anything from a whole raft of potential problems: only scans, blood tests and examination will give you an answer. Hopefully it’s something that’s treatable. Good luck James and all the best to Winnie. 
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 20534
    boogieman said:
    Firstly, sorry to hear she’s not well. We lost our Labrador to liver failure four months ago and still miss him every single day. People will tell you “it’s only a dog” but they become so much a part of your life. 

    I take it you’ve taken her to the vet? It could be anything from a whole raft of potential problems: only scans, blood tests and examination will give you an answer. Hopefully it’s something that’s treatable. Good luck James and all the best to Winnie. 
    Yeah, that's when we detected the heart murmur. She won't eat a thing, not even freshly cooked chicken.

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  • boogiemanboogieman Frets: 5129
    A heart murmur on its own isn’t necessarily much cause to worry about. Our Mac had one all his life and it didn’t really bother him that much.

    There has to be an underlying cause for her lack of appetite, that’s what needs investigation.
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  • jonevejoneve Frets: 853
    edited February 6
    boogieman said:
    Firstly, sorry to hear she’s not well. We lost our Labrador to liver failure four months ago and still miss him every single day. People will tell you “it’s only a dog” but they become so much a part of your life. 

    I take it you’ve taken her to the vet? It could be anything from a whole raft of potential problems: only scans, blood tests and examination will give you an answer. Hopefully it’s something that’s treatable. Good luck James and all the best to Winnie. 
    This sends me into a fit of rage if I hear people say this. 

    sorry to hear about Winnie @Gassage sending positive vibes your way! 
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  • gubblegubble Frets: 1055

    Sorry to hear about this @gassage

    We've had our dog less than a year and she's such a huge part of the family. I dread the thought of anything bad happening to her.

    She's also called Winnie

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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 422
    Bloody hell, this year sucks for poorly pets - had to have my 13 year old little man cat put down a couple of weeks ago :(

    Hopefully it's nothing too serious - what did the vet suggest as next steps? Is she insured (Winnie, not the vet)?
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  • fields5069fields5069 Frets: 1451
    Sorry to hear about this. We have a 5-year-old Cavachon who is looking at the possibility of various health problems in a few years or so, and yes they are pretty much daft humans who become part of the family.
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 20534
    FarleyUK said:
    Bloody hell, this year sucks for poorly pets - had to have my 13 year old little man cat put down a couple of weeks ago :(

    Hopefully it's nothing too serious - what did the vet suggest as next steps? Is she insured (Winnie, not the vet)?
    Massively insured.

    So, it's blood tests.

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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9002
    My sympathies @Gassage. I know you'll do your best for her. My best wishes for you both.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 15025
    Been there with ours, so I completely understand the pain.

    A good vet will give good advice, and will also completely understand how important "a dog" can be to the life of their human. 

    I still feel more pain from when one of ours came to her end (3 years ago) than I do when my father died (last summer).  

    Hope the problem gets resolved and you and she have some more fun years ahead.
    :)
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  • jellyrolljellyroll Frets: 2176
    TTony said:
    I still feel more pain from when one of ours came to her end (3 years ago) than I do when my father died (last summer).  
    I haven't lost either but I suspect I'll feel the same way.

    @gassage - sending you and Winnie warm wishes
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 20534
    Thanks all. Apprc. She's my girl.

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15723
    Those symptoms sound like Pancreatitis - one of ours has it. Needs antibiotics and pain relief, and possibly liquid drip for a bit - but long term prognosis is manageable by foods - mostly cutting out fat. 
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 20534
    Those symptoms sound like Pancreatitis - one of ours has it. Needs antibiotics and pain relief, and possibly liquid drip for a bit - but long term prognosis is manageable by foods - mostly cutting out fat. 
    Vomiting after eating too?

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15723
    Gassage said:
    Those symptoms sound like Pancreatitis - one of ours has it. Needs antibiotics and pain relief, and possibly liquid drip for a bit - but long term prognosis is manageable by foods - mostly cutting out fat. 
    Vomiting after eating too?
    Yes. Vomiting after eating, sometimes shaking, and the squits all symptoms. The biggie is lethargy and weakness combined with tummy type issues. 
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 20534
    Those symptoms sound like Pancreatitis - one of ours has it. Needs antibiotics and pain relief, and possibly liquid drip for a bit - but long term prognosis is manageable by foods - mostly cutting out fat. 
    Just googled it- precisely her symptoms.

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 15723
    Gassage said:
    Those symptoms sound like Pancreatitis - one of ours has it. Needs antibiotics and pain relief, and possibly liquid drip for a bit - but long term prognosis is manageable by foods - mostly cutting out fat. 
    Just googled it- precisely her symptoms.
    The “coughing” is actually her trying to get her breath after either heaving or squits.

    Blood test and ultrasound will diagnose it. It could be one of two types - Acute or Chronic. Chronic is an underlying condition and can become acute.

    Basically it’s a swollen/poisoned pancreas which stops producing the stuff needed to digest food. A liquid drip and stomach rest will bring the swelling down, and if it is acute pancreatitis she’ll be on a diet of chicken and rice for a few months. 

    Once over the acute bit, the long term prognosis is very good - it’s a diet change to cut out fat as that’s what aggravates it. If you are worried the vet isn’t getting it then suggest an ultrasound 
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3379
    Got to take my cat to the vet today too ... :(   Sneezing, squits, plus nasty scabs on back (again)
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  • andy1839andy1839 Frets: 558
    I feel for you mate, I really do. I’ve been in the same position quite a few times and it never gets easier to see them get older. 

    Gassage said:
    Those symptoms sound like Pancreatitis - one of ours has it. Needs antibiotics and pain relief, and possibly liquid drip for a bit - but long term prognosis is manageable by foods - mostly cutting out fat. 
    Just googled it- precisely her symptoms.
    The “coughing” is actually her trying to get her breath after either heaving or squits.

    Blood test and ultrasound will diagnose it. It could be one of two types - Acute or Chronic. Chronic is an underlying condition and can become acute.

    Basically it’s a swollen/poisoned pancreas which stops producing the stuff needed to digest food. A liquid drip and stomach rest will bring the swelling down, and if it is acute pancreatitis she’ll be on a diet of chicken and rice for a few months. 

    Once over the acute bit, the long term prognosis is very good - it’s a diet change to cut out fat as that’s what aggravates it. If you are worried the vet isn’t getting it then suggest an ultrasound 


    one of our dogs has suffered with pancreatitis all his life, diet is a major factor in keeping it under control. 

    This stuff is brilliant and has made a massive difference. 

    http://m.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/wet_dog_food/terra_canis

    unfortunately for him it’s meant no treats but at least we still have him and his quality of life is as good as the other dogs. 

    Wishing you and her her all the best. 
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 13412
    Big hugs to Winnie!  Hope she gets better quickly.
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 20534
    Update; it appears it may either be a valve or a heart tumour. She's had more tests than Sachin Tendulkar this week. Valve is treatable, tumour isn't.

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  • AlnicoAlnico Frets: 4221
    All our thoughts are with you three.
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9002
    Best wishes for getting it sorted. Wouldn't want it to be either, but the treatable one is preferable.
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 422
    Fingers crossed mate - never a nice time when your pet is ill :(
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  • tone1tone1 Frets: 1583
    Sending Good Vibrations Chap! Sounds like Winnie couldn’t have been looked after any better..
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  • sweepysweepy Frets: 1873
    Sending positive thoughts and wishes, they are a part of the Family and you will do whatever you can and what is best for Winnie, cradling our Basset hound as it was put down ranks as one of the worst moments of my life so I understand completely 
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  • usedtobeusedtobe Frets: 2522
    Fingers crossed.
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1421
    edited February 10
    All the best for Winnie and you take care of yourself, James
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 3712
    Sorry to hear that James
    I have been through it many times with our Wolfhounds as they are very prone to heart issues
    The coughing is a result of the lungs not clearing due to the heart disfunction /pulmonary issue -they should give a diuretic such as Frusimide to stop water logging of the plural cavity and a heart drug such as Forticore.
    Heart tumours are very rare in dogs......but most Labs will have some degree of Cardiomyopathy by that age -the enlargement causes the heart muscle to become thinner walled and pump less strongly when contracting
    My sister is a vet .....I have been through these treatments and part of a test group under Dr Serena Brownlie who is the leading researcher of Heart disease in Dogs.

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  • WazmeisterWazmeister Frets: 3919
    James,

    In our thoughts mate...

    I lost my Collie, Ben, about 2 years ago... and still miss him.

    But there is always hope, my friend, always hope :)
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