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richardhomer said:

@Carlos - I presume it’s you who’s ‘loling’ any post in this thread about wood making a difference to sound?

If I’m right, why not grow a pair and make your argument out in the open, rather than undermine those who are trying to answer the OP’s question?

yes can't see why any comment I've made above is worth any LOL 

richardhomer

guitars4you said:

richardhomer said:

@Carlos - I presume it’s you who’s ‘loling’ any post in this thread about wood making a difference to sound?

If I’m right, why not grow a pair and make your argument out in the open, rather than undermine those who are trying to answer the OP’s question?

yes can't see why any comment I've made above is worth any LOL 

Because @Carlos doesn’t believe wood makes a difference to the sound of an electric guitar - which is an opinion he’s perfectly entitled to hold - but not to undermine those who disagree with by ‘loling’ them.

In fairness, I could be wrong - it may be someone else - or by massive coincidence - user error. I gather the mods can check who awards Frets....

carlos

richardhomer said:

@Carlos - I presume it’s you who’s ‘loling’ any post in this thread about wood making a difference to sound?

If I’m right, why not grow a pair and make your argument out in the open, rather than undermine those who are trying to answer the OP’s question?

You presume incorrectly and I've flagged your comment for mod review as it's rude and not conducive to a good conversation in this forum.
I've long stopped caring if people have wrong beliefs and choose to share these as experts. Life's too short and Internet is too big. Believing in tone woods in electric guitars won't kill children like anti-vaxxers will, so I honestly don't give a shit these days.
My little joke was about all this talk of growth hormone and wood. It seemed too easy a joke to pass up.

carlos

richardhomer said:

In fairness, I could be wrong - it may be someone else - or by massive coincidence - user error. I gather the mods can check who awards Frets....

I think if users are going to consider LOL's offensive then they should be disabled altogether.

crunchman

Wood definitely makes a difference to tone.

In a lot of cases, I think that lighter wood seems to sound better, but not in every case.  I bought a Tele several years ago when there was another of the same model that was a little bit lighter.  The one I bought seemed to sound better.

I also had a very lightweight Custom Shop Les Paul.  It was probably the lightest all solid Les Paul I've played.  It didn't have a lot of meat to the sound.  I had one in the 9lb range later on that definitely sounded better.

Having said that, most of the best guitars I've played have been light weight examples.

thegummy

carlos said:

richardhomer said:

In fairness, I could be wrong - it may be someone else - or by massive coincidence - user error. I gather the mods can check who awards Frets....

I think if users are going to consider LOL's offensive then they should be disabled altogether.

I've thought before that it's quite sad that there's a feature intended to give users the social interaction that is laughing at their joke in person and some people use it as a way to try to offend people making non-humourous comments when they don't have the confidence or ability to counter the point.

I always picture it being 14 year olds going "durr that guy's saying something that doesn't match what I read on another forum, durrrr".

Of course, the joke's on them as all it does is increase that person's "fret" number.

NelsonP

crunchman said:

Wood definitely makes a difference to tone.

Don't start that again ;-)

robgilmo said:

Anyhow, my point is, get used to soft wood

...said the bishop to the actress

thegummy

Since it's impossible to recreate the same guitar and same strum/pick with the only difference being the wood; I think the only way to prove it either way would be having someone listen blindly to a decently large sample of random guitars and if they were able to tell correctly each time which wood it was made of.

I don't know if that's been done but, until it is, I don't know how anyone could be so sure that wood either does or doesn't affect the tone.

jpfamps

Presumably if wood doesn't make any difference then there is no point making guitars out of wood?

Or am I missing something?

OilCityPickups

I think we need to draw up a theory of 'Schrodinger's wood'; whereby wood (shut in a steel box) both makes a difference to a guitars tone and doesn't at the same time ... depending on observation. Would save all the bollocks we get here every time this chestnut pops out of the fire.

Bridgehouse

Are we talking about body wood or neck/fretboard wood? Cos neck/fretboard wood clearly makes a difference to tone. 

Or are we talking about body wood? In which case, acoustic or electric? Cos on an acoustic body wood clearly makes a difference to tone.....

richardhomer

Bridgehouse said:

Are we talking about body wood or neck/fretboard wood? Cos neck/fretboard wood clearly makes a difference to tone. 

Or are we talking about body wood? In which case, acoustic or electric? Cos on an acoustic body wood clearly makes a difference to tone.....

Typical bass player - lowering the tone....

OilCityPickups

SBridgehouse said:

Are we talking about body wood or neck/fretboard wood? Cos neck/fretboard wood clearly makes a difference to tone. 

Or are we talking about body wood? In which case, acoustic or electric? Cos on an acoustic body wood clearly makes a difference to tone.....

Shusssshhhh there's a great evil here ready to be wakened by the mention of That Which Must Not be Named. 

WezV

TheGuitarWeasel said:

I think we need to draw up a theory of 'Schrodinger's wood'; whereby wood (shut in a steel box) both makes a difference to a guitars tone and doesn't at the same time ... depending on observation. Would save all the bollocks we get here every time this chestnut pops out of the fire.

I don't think that's far off the truth.

saying it doesn't make a difference is as ridiculous as claiming its the most important factor in the sound  of an electric guitar.

SlopeSoarer

carlos said:

richardhomer said:

@Carlos - I presume it’s you who’s ‘loling’ any post in this thread about wood making a difference to sound?

If I’m right, why not grow a pair and make your argument out in the open, rather than undermine those who are trying to answer the OP’s question?

You presume incorrectly and I've flagged your comment for mod review as it's rude and not conducive to a good conversation in this forum.
I've long stopped caring if people have wrong beliefs and choose to share these as experts. Life's too short and Internet is too big. Believing in tone woods in electric guitars won't kill children like anti-vaxxers will, so I honestly don't give a shit these days.
My little joke was about all this talk of growth hormone and wood. It seemed too easy a joke to pass up.

@Carlos, sorry that went right over my head!

OilCityPickups

Beware the Lord Woodymort ... arggggg I said it ... 

thegummy

WezV said:

TheGuitarWeasel said:

I think we need to draw up a theory of 'Schrodinger's wood'; whereby wood (shut in a steel box) both makes a difference to a guitars tone and doesn't at the same time ... depending on observation. Would save all the bollocks we get here every time this chestnut pops out of the fire.

I don't think that's far off the truth.

saying it doesn't make a difference is as ridiculous as claiming its the most important factor in the sound  of an electric guitar.

I really like that image.

To me it doesn't make sense to be certain about any position, either extremes or being certain that it's somewhere in the middle, if there's no scientific proof.

The McGurk effect is an eye opener for people who aren't already aware of it.

It's just not possible for us to ignore visual information when interpreting sounds we hear. So it wouldn't matter how sure I was that, for example, that maple fretboards had a specific sound, I know I couldn't trust that to mean they do.

barry2tone

Because they have curves.  

pintspiller

If a thing made from lots of parts having tolerances of +/- 2%, it's going to add up to wide variance of each thing.

WezV

pintspiller said:

If a thing made from lots of parts having tolerances of +/- 2%, it's going to add up to wide variance of each thing.

The weight, stiffness and density variation within any species of wood is massively more variable than any other part of the guitar