Anyone here into jazz?

EricTheWeary

if anybody would like a go at putting my above contribution into English please do so. Still, it's a jazz thread, as long as no one mentions Sting we will be okay.

Jalapeno

The Jazz tradition came directly from the the Blues, it's just more tonally complex

Phil_aka_Pip

I too like "jazz bass lines". I think it's the way they walk.

Herr Georg Friedrich Haendel also wrote bass lines which 'walked', eg the second variation on Sarabande in D minor. Some have said there's no connection between George's bass lines and those you find in some jazz music but I disagree. They way they walk through the chords, play the changes, and keep the rhythm going is very similar, even if the rules governing which changes may occur are different.

 

Jalapeno

Jazz bass you say ?  Check out Ron Carter.

jmaster

EricTheWeary;22197" said:

if anybody would like a go at putting my above contribution into English please do so. Still, it's a jazz thread, as long as no one mentions Sting we will be okay.

Sting.

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jmaster;22706" said:

[quote="EricTheWeary;22197"]if anybody would like a go at putting my above contribution into English please do so. Still, it's a jazz thread, as long as no one mentions Sting we will be okay.

Sting.[/quote]

In fairness, the guys he played with early in his solo career (Branford Marsalis, Omar Hakim, Daryl Jones, Kenny Kirkland) were pretty impressive...

jmaster

Branford Marsalis is absolutely awesome

frankus

I tell you if you really want unsolicited advice (which you don't) on unsolicited recommendations on jazz music, the master was blind wee-wee jefferson.

bigjon

Back from holiday so late to this party, but I am massively into jazz. That said, although I play lots of traditional jazz guitar, I don't really listen to any for pleasure. Pat Metheny and Mike Stern are about as far towards the trad end of the spectrum as it gets for me! Major Allan Holdsworth fan, so recommend his album of jazz standards "None Too Soon". I do listen to and attempt to play in the style of solo jazz guitar a la Martin Taylor or (especially) Tuck Andress on his "Reckless Precision" album.

I listen to loads of non-guitar based modern jazz. Double-bass fans check out Avishai Cohen. EST fans head for Nik Bartsch's Ronin (and wonder). If SLIGHTLY more traditional piano trio music is your thing, you really can't get any better than Hiromi in full flow - piano solo starts at 2:15ish

Megii

Funny thing with Holdsworth, some people just don't seem to get it - e.g. I have a friend who really is a fabulous, top class jazz guitarist, and just doesn't like AH's playing at all. I on the other hand was entranced the first time I heard him, and still am, I "got it" instantly I guess. Long while ago I went through a phase of wanting/wishing I could play like him lol, long since come to my senses and realized it's best left to him, but still have a (somewhat modified) green Ibanez AH10, which I bought new in '85 or '86:

AH didn't seem too keen on this model, and moved on to other things, but I still like the guitar a lot - a lovely neck for one thing.

Hiromi is great! love that, cheers not come across her before.

jmaster

frankus;22863" said:

I tell you if you really want unsolicited advice (which you don't) on unsolicited recommendations on jazz music, the master was blind wee-wee jefferson.

When he was playin both pipes was on fire.

bigjon

Megii said:

AH didn't seem too keen on this model, and moved on to other things, but I still like the guitar a lot - a lovely neck for one thing.

My Holdsworth machine is this Steinberger - the lack of front pickup is a happy coincidence :-)

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n498/bigjon1684/LSbjwithSteinberger.jpg

equalsql

bigjon said:

If SLIGHTLY more traditional piano trio music is your thing, you really can't get any better than Hiromi in full flow

Oh my God you're not kidding...she's amazing 

:-O

(I'm a huge Jason Rebello fan)

Fretwired

bigjon said:

Back from holiday so late to this party, but I am massively into jazz. That said, although I play lots of traditional jazz guitar, I don't really listen to any for pleasure. Pat Metheny and Mike Stern are about as far towards the trad end of the spectrum as it gets for me! Major Allan Holdsworth fan, so recommend his album of jazz standards "None Too Soon". I do listen to and attempt to play in the style of solo jazz guitar a la Martin Taylor or (especially) Tuck Andress on his "Reckless Precision" album.

I listen to loads of non-guitar based modern jazz. Double-bass fans check out Avishai Cohen. EST fans head for Nik Bartsch's Ronin (and wonder). If SLIGHTLY more traditional piano trio music is your thing, you really can't get any better than Hiromi in full flow - piano solo starts at 2:15ish

I have most of her albums .. amazing player.

Her band Sonic Boom is worth checking out

equalsql

Thanks for that clip. Great to see someone so talented enjoying the music she is creating instead of the usual 'look at how great I am' face that many such musicians employ. Will def have to check out more Sonic Boom   

Del_Preston

UnclePsychosis said:

I like Jazz, but don't really listen to "guitar" jazz.

Big fan of The Bad Plus (they're phenomenal live), but my favourite "modern" jazz band is definitely EST (Esbjorn Svensson Trio). A real shame ES died a few years ago

These two performances in particular are great: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHH258qFmI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3l8lVXWk-I

Holy s*** that EST track is phenomenal!  New one on me, many thanks.

jdgm

Megii said:

Will see if I can catch up on that series on iplayer, too bad if I've missed out. Just to mention another of my favourite jazz guitarists - Emily Remler (sadly no longer with us). Influenced by Wes Montgomery, also you hear Pat Martino in there, and others. But I think she really had something of her own, and a strong individual voice.

I have that album and a couple others by her - superb playing, she was the best at Wes octaves IMO and there are some jaw-dropping vids of her on Youtube. Greatly missed.

This is from one of the finest guitar LPs of the 1980s: Steve Khan / Eyewitness with Anthony Jackson, Steve Jordan, Manolo Badrena -

bingefeller

Del_Preston said:

UnclePsychosis said:

I like Jazz, but don't really listen to "guitar" jazz.

Big fan of The Bad Plus (they're phenomenal live), but my favourite "modern" jazz band is definitely EST (Esbjorn Svensson Trio). A real shame ES died a few years ago

These two performances in particular are great: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHH258qFmI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3l8lVXWk-I

Holy s*** that EST track is phenomenal!  New one on me, many thanks.

The Esbjorn Svensson Trio album Live In Hamburg is one of the best live albums ever. 

UnclePsychosis

@Del_Preston and @bingefeller ;


If you like EST you should definitely check out Go Go Penguin. They are clearly influenced by EST but they are doing their own thing really. They're doing a UK tour in November, I'm rather excited about seeing them  

UnclePsychosis

This one is great too: