Hendrix...

poopot

why is he considered one of the greats?.

To my mind he is vastly overrated...

meltedbuzzbox

Oh God, not again

munckee

You're spoiling for a fight this week chief!

Don't forget George Harrison, ham fisted hack...

ChuckManual

I prefer Bombay Sapphire, certainly. 

brooom

Sipsmith's fine with me...

digitalscream

poopot said:

why is he considered one of the greats?.

To my mind he is vastly overrated...

Totally agreed. In a similar vein, Led Zep are possibly one of the most overrated bands in history.

(not subscribing to the thread, just chucking a grenade over the fence...)

soma1975

Stone Roses
Joy Division
Denzel Washington
Rory Gallagher

if we are doing overrated lists

Kittyfrisk

Move along now, nothing to see here.

MLten80

*gets popcorn* mmm

Boromedic

My god I despair of this place sometimes....

Seriously though, even if you don't like the guitarists/bands in question theres no way Hendrix or Zep are over rated. Stone Roses and Joy Division were genre defining in their time and paved the way for many others. Not to mention Squire is amazing. Rory was a massive influence on others especially Irish players. I'm not a huge fan of Rorys albums but he was a great guitarist. Obviously all of that is IMHO.

57Deluxe

poopot said:

why is he considered one of the greats?.

To my mind he is vastly overrated...

That is cos you are comparing him to five decades of guitarists that took up his mantle and ran with it some more. You have to view him at a time of limited FX and technology and when everybody wanted to sing about Flowerpots and wearing Kaftans...

DaevidJ

Eric Clapton... Chris Rhea... 

munckee

Boromedic said:

My god I despair of this place sometimes....

Seriously though, even if you don't like the guitarists/bands in question theres no way Hendrix or Zep are over rated. Stone Roses and Joy Division were genre defining in their time and paved the way for many others. Not to mention Squire is amazing. Rory was a massive influence on others especially Irish players. I'm not a huge fan of Rorys albums but he was a great guitarist. Obviously all of that is IMHO.

Depends what you are rating on, I can't listen to Led Zep because of Plant's voice.  I love Stone Roses but Ian Brown could barely sing at best.  The masses know Joy Division for one song.

You sum it up in the word influence I think. My favourite ever band is the pixies for the influence they had on me and on other bands I loved.  Most people seem totally indifferent or oblivious to them.

guitars4you

Part of the magic of Jimi + Kossoff and Pete Green is that they only had a short career - For different reasons they came and went all to briefly - There is only so much known material and we believe all has just about been found and released - It was a magic period of time - When Jimi came along, no one had really played guitar like him before hand

No way of knowing how Jimi's output would have changed if he was still around today - Looking at how J Beck, John McLaughlin and Santana went, amongst others, then I guess some form of jazz/fusion influenced 

I can hardly say I'm the biggest fan of Jimi I but have a few recordings (I'm more of a placid follower) - Certain tracks like Wind Cries Mary and Little Wing and you have IMO some of the best Strat tones ever - Yet equally I've seen some live footage of various songs that sounds a awful - But boundaries were been pushed and challenged

His influences to others are well known and as with many guitar players, they possess something that we can learn from them - As with all players, there is no gold medal at the end of a 100 meter track, so no one is the best - But many are more influential than others

HAL9000

Alexander
Catherine
Peter

Why are they considered to be among the ‘greats’?

soma1975

I regret nothing.

Joy Division are okay. A couple of good songs but yes, quite influential. 

Roses are okay. A couple of good songs. 

Speak to any fan an you'd think they were the greatest bands of all time. 

Rory could play but not my taste at all. And while lots of people love him who has he influenced that isn't Irish? Who sounds like Rory in the way that, say, SRV inspired? 

Nobody had a problem with Denzel though.... Racists!

Funkfingers

Jeremy Kyle should do a programme about this topic. Danny Baker could attempt to salvage his broadcasting career by appearing as a guest. He could stoke controversy by pointing out resemblances between ape species. Oops, no. Neither of them will be doing that any more.

poopot said:

why is he considered one of the greats?

Let's ask Cynthia Plastercaster.

soma1975

I should add, I named my son Hendrix so am probably a bit of a fan. 

munckee

HAL9000 said:

Alexander
Catherine
Peter

Why are they considered to be among the ‘greats’?

My cousins kids in yorkshire were told my dad was their Great Uncle Graham, one of them who was about 5 instantly chipped in with "what makes him great?"

Blueingreen

Please explain your concept of "overrated".

Because as far as I can see, the proposition "musician x is overrated" means  "a weighted average of the opinions of his fellow musicians, critics and the general audience rate x at a certain level.  I, however, think differently and am convinced that I am right".

Aesthetic judgement is subjective: all you're saying "my judgement is more valid than other peoples'".

What is your basis for thinking that, other than than simple narcissism?

poopot

digitalscream said:

poopot said:

why is he considered one of the greats?.

To my mind he is vastly overrated...

Totally agreed. In a similar vein, Led Zep are possibly one of the most overrated bands in history.

(not subscribing to the thread, just chucking a grenade over the fence...)

Totally with you on this one... Jimi Page is hugely overrated... 

that said, the duet she did with Barbara Dickson was a cracker!...