Chord Of The Week 25/10/14 - The 'Walking On The Moon' chord

bigjon

Dm7add11: x53533

Notes are:

D, the root - x5xx3x

F, the minor 3rd - xx3xxx

C, the 7th - xxx5xx

G, the 11th - xxxxx3

The chord 'works' because of the underlying quartal harmony - the 4 notes can be rearranged into D G C F as a sequence of 4th intervals stacked on top of each other, hence the name 'quartal' = made up of 4ths. Why are they called 4th intervals? Start counting up the alphabet from D as 1 and when you get to G you're on the number 4. If you go past G when counting, cycle back to A, so the interval between G and C is G1 A2 B3 C4 = a 4th again.

For bucketloads of info on quartal harmony and its application to Dm chords, see the discussion on D minor chords at

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/110/chord-of-the-week-3-8-13-dm

bigjon

Chord Of The Week Index updated with 64 discussions at http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/598/chord-of-the-week-index

ThePrettyDamned

Okay, maybe a daft question but you get the same notes by barring at the 10th fret on the low 4 strings.

Is this the same chord as above for naming purposes, or does the note order affect it? I don't have a guitar to hand right now to hear how different the voicing is...

mike_l

At the 10th it would be

10-8-10-9-8-x

D-F-C-F-G

viz

You mean 10-8-10-10? But I think he means 10-10-10-10 is D,G,C,F, right?

bigjon

10 10 10 10 x x is indeed a Dm7add11 voicing, but it sounds a lot different because the G is voiced low and the F is on the top. Perhaps it would be more informative to call it Dm7add4

ThePrettyDamned

bigjon said:

10 10 10 10 x x is indeed a Dm7add11 voicing, but it sounds a lot different because the G is voiced low and the F is on the top. Perhaps it would be more informative to call it Dm7add4

So I got the notes right.  That's something.

Why would that name be more accurate?  Does it have a different musical context?

Again... Not got a guitar handy, but really value the info

viz

The 4 and the 11 are the same note, just that the 11 is when you add it above the chord, at the top of it, and the 4 is when you add it inside the main octave, as you are doing when you play 10-10-10-10 (the 4th being the string next to the bottom note).

mellowsun

Ooh, there's some lovely chords in this part of the fretboard. Use the same rhythm for walking on the moon (da-da daaah) and try these, related chords:

x 5 5 5 6 0

3 5 3 5 0 3 (wrap the thumb round on the bottom E string at the 3rd fret to play this)

HAL9000

viz said:

The 4 and the 11 are the same note, just that the 11 is when you add it above the chord, at the top of it, and the 4 is when you add it inside the main octave, as you are doing when you play 10-10-10-10 (the 4th being the string next to the bottom note).

My understanding is that it's a 4th if added to the chord, and an 11th if a 7th is also added. Whether a note is 'within' the range of the chord does not affect the naming convention.