Line 6 Helix

Drew_TNBD

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/Last%20Chance%20Buried%283%29.mp3

Warning: Ropey vocal ideas and ultra over-use of fuzz alert.

Cabicular

John_A said:

I can't figure it out, I'll ask over at the line 6 forum, but I'm sure you are right

I'm sure I had a similar issue when using the pedal for volume
Thinking about it you could reverse the action so that the toe down position was your minimum delay mix and the heel down was your max
that way when you push forward and engage the switch you'll also set your delay to minimum
all you have to deal with then is a lifetime of conditioning that pedal down means more

John_A

^ think this would be too much for my poor little brain, plus when I activate the Wah I do want a bit of delay

Cabicular

John_A said:

^ think this would be too much for my poor little brain, plus when I activate the Wah I do want a bit of delay

Sure but you set the minimum mix to be 15% or something 
surely you don't have the expression pedal fading it to 0?
I know what you mean though , I ended up just putting one of the wee line 6 expression Pedals on the board and using that for modifiers

the only other thing you can do is assign the toe switch to a button and toggle the wah on and off that way

chrispy108

Drew_TNBD said:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/Last%20Chance%20Buried%283%29.mp3

Warning: Ropey vocal ideas and ultra over-use of fuzz alert.

That bass tone!  

Drew_TNBD

chrispy108 said:

Drew_TNBD said:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/Last%20Chance%20Buried%283%29.mp3

Warning: Ropey vocal ideas and ultra over-use of fuzz alert.

That bass tone!  

Cool innit?!

chrispy108

What is it? All Helix is assume?

Sporky

That bass is awesome - from the lovely clangy attack I assume it's the Stingray?

Drew_TNBD

chrispy108 said:

What is it? All Helix is assume?

Yeah it's all Helix. With the Ownhammer Ampeg impulses, which are way better than the stock cabs.

Sporky said:

That bass is awesome - from the lovely clangy attack I assume it's the Stingray?

Yessir!

So is this one:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/GearDemo/Helix/Bass/Schism Bass Tone.wav

Pitch whammy in front of a filter and a fuzz, then into the amp, with some delay and reverb. It sounds faiiiirrly close to the actual track.

rossyamaha

I'm 99% there with this thing. Did 2 gigs this weekend, one in a large 3000 capacity theatre and one in a pokey little pub. It was killer on both. Figured out the switching so it wasn't that different to the way I use the Gigrig. 

4 cable method to the Lonestar, 1 preset with 4 snapshots a few things on instant access. Split the signal before it returned to the amp to send a stereo feed using a cab simulation to the FOH with ping pong delay but using the simple delay for my amp. Last night was the clincher as I could go out front and hear my amp as well as the direct signal. The difference was zero. The FOH was exactly the same tone as from the amp. Couldn't believe it. Gonna do a couple more gigs with it before I make the leap but I'm loving it. 

welshboyo

rossyamaha said:

I'm 99% there with this thing. Did 2 gigs this weekend, one in a large 3000 capacity theatre and one in a pokey little pub. It was killer on both. Figured out the switching so it wasn't that different to the way I use the Gigrig. 

4 cable method to the Lonestar, 1 preset with 4 snapshots a few things on instant access. Split the signal before it returned to the amp to send a stereo feed using a cab simulation to the FOH with ping pong delay but using the simple delay for my amp. Last night was the clincher as I could go out front and hear my amp as well as the direct signal. The difference was zero. The FOH was exactly the same tone as from the amp. Couldn't believe it. Gonna do a couple more gigs with it before I make the leap but I'm loving it. 

@rossyamaha can you screenshot your preset?

cant get my head around running 4cm and FOH in one preset!!

rossyamaha

@welshboyo no problem. 

Sporky

Drew_TNBD said:

Yessir!

So is this one:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/GearDemo/Helix/Bass/Schism Bass Tone.wav

Pitch whammy in front of a filter and a fuzz, then into the amp, with some delay and reverb. It sounds faiiiirrly close to the actual track.

I would be most grateful for the patch. That's epic.

Drew_TNBD

Sporky said:

Drew_TNBD said:

Yessir!

So is this one:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/GearDemo/Helix/Bass/Schism Bass Tone.wav

Pitch whammy in front of a filter and a fuzz, then into the amp, with some delay and reverb. It sounds faiiiirrly close to the actual track.

I would be most grateful for the patch. That's epic.

I'll see if I kept it. If not, I'll rebuild it and post.

rossyamaha

@welshboyo here you go. 

http://i.imgur.com/D6GUOae.jpg

Ignoring all the other blocks in the chain, the key bit is where you see the first effects loop block. Thats the 4cm method bit. You'll see next in line is a volume pedal. Then it's split into 2 paths. One adds a delay for my amp and output set to jack out. The other path has the cab simulation (Silver Bell), the delay and an eq just for volume boost which I match with the Lonestar and goes out through the XLR's in stereo. Works a treat. 

welshboyo

rossyamaha said:

@welshboyo here you go. 

http://i.imgur.com/D6GUOae.jpg

Ignoring all the other blocks in the chain, the key bit is where you see the first effects loop block. Thats the 4cm method bit. You'll see next in line is a volume pedal. Then it's split into 2 paths. One adds a delay for my amp and output set to jack out. The other path has the cab simulation (Silver Bell), the delay and an eq just for volume boost which I match with the Lonestar and goes out through the XLR's in stereo. Works a treat. 

Ah, yes OK got it, so essentially your Lonestar preamp is feeding the IR?

rossyamaha

welshboyo said:

rossyamaha said:

@welshboyo here you go. 

http://i.imgur.com/D6GUOae.jpg

Ignoring all the other blocks in the chain, the key bit is where you see the first effects loop block. Thats the 4cm method bit. You'll see next in line is a volume pedal. Then it's split into 2 paths. One adds a delay for my amp and output set to jack out. The other path has the cab simulation (Silver Bell), the delay and an eq just for volume boost which I match with the Lonestar and goes out through the XLR's in stereo. Works a treat. 

Ah, yes OK got it, so essentially your Lonestar preamp is feeding the IR?

Exactly. 

Drew_TNBD

So this was a weird little goal I had... get a Riverside-style chorusy bass tone, and a Tool 10,000 Days style lead tone, in the same song: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/RiverTool.mp3

Riffs are a bit generic, but just tone chasing really.

FarleyUK

Just got my Helix fixed and returned...... after about a week!

Great work, Line 6

ElectroDan

FarleyUK said:

Just got my Helix fixed and returned...... after about a week!

Great work, Line 6

That is a quick turn-around! Good stuff.