Good trader thread - suggestion for revamp as it currently doesn't work!

xtedmanzie

Hello

I'm new to this forum but an old member on Basschat. 

The 'good trader v4 thread' doesn't work, sorry. As a new buyer it's just impossible to find out feedback from a potential seller.

What you need is the system they use on basschat where each member has a thread, check it out:

http://basschat.co.uk/forum/23-feedback/

It is then a simple matter for sellers to direct buyers to their feedback, and vice versa.

It's just a case of creating the section and then it creates itself as buyers and sellers leave feedback for each other after trades.

richh

It is quite difficult to search through the current Good Traders / Bad Traders threads, and it would be great if there was an easier way to get a summary, maybe as the OP says, have one entry per member with scores?

xtedmanzie

i don't understand the scores, it needs a simple way to leave positive or negative feedback, check the basschat link it's simple and requires no moderation or scoring.

TTony

tedmanzie said:

Hello

I'm new to this forum but an old member on Basschat. 

Welcome!

tedmanzie said:

The 'good trader v4 thread' doesn't work, sorry. 

No need to apologise - it doesn't work.  It started life as a manually updated process, but the volunteer manual updater had to focus on other life challenges!

tedmanzie said:

What you need is the system they use on basschat where each member has a thread

That looks like a better option than what we've currently got.

I could create a new section in the Classifieds to hold all the threads - one per user.

With time, we could even try to incorporate the existing feedback into the new threads, so that history wasn't lost.  *With time*!

Any downsides - other than the risk of multiple threads being created for an individual member?

MrSwanson

Best way of doing it searching for the username and then advance and check misc only. Not great but does the job kind of.

TTony

It'd be handy if we could embed the correct search options into a sticky - easy then for someone to search for a member before creating a new thread.

Either that, or we could restrict members from creating new threads, and appoint a feedback mod who'd be the person able to create those threads, ensuring no duplication.

xtedmanzie

Thanks for the welcome!

I've already spent £1100 on a guitar and only been here a week, yikes!! (which is why I am interested in the feedback thread!)

Downsides to the Basschat feedback system are occasionally you get more than one thread per member when the seller starts a new thread not realising that one exists, so the mods have to merge them. But once a member has a thread (and they only need one once they buy/sell) then it's pretty easy to make it work.

The other downside would be that people might be reluctant to leave negative feedback, but they do seem to and there are very few occasions where basschat has problematic trades. 

xtedmanzie

The big plus is that you can link people direct to your feedback thread to either read it, or leave feedback. Works both ways for buyer and seller.

DesVegas

@mrswanson +1 great idea!

TTony

I'm going to move this to the Classifieds sections (I'll probably move it between the different sections over the next few days so everyone has a chance to see it) just to try to gather some more feedback & suggestion.

Jookyjr

Would it be better if people just left feedback on the seller's wall? No need for new threads/sections and nobody seems to use it for much apart from publicly available PMS

I presume that the thread owner can't edit it (?) so no hassle on the fraud front.

Downside: It wouldn't give a total count, but you could soon get an idea reading through the various feedback.

Alnico

TTony said:

It'd be handy if we could embed the correct search options into a sticky - easy then for someone to search for a member before creating a new thread.

Either that, or we could restrict members from creating new threads, and appoint a feedback mod who'd be the person able to create those threads, ensuring no duplication.

I've got loads of time on my hands now. I can handle that for you if you like ?

Just let me know.

Alnico

As it looks, there isn't THAT much work in collating the historical feedback and applying it to the 'New' Thread for each member.

It's not nothing but it's nothing like difficult, again if you want that done, let me know.

I'm on 'The Musicians Scholarship' now and the curriculum isn't exactly what you could call heavy !

fretmeister

I'll ignore the fact that I suggested this donkeys ago, and was shot down because Basschat charges for the classifieds. because that's clearly the same thing as feedback.

fretmeister

TTony said:

tedmanzie said:

Hello

I'm new to this forum but an old member on Basschat. 

Welcome!

tedmanzie said:

The 'good trader v4 thread' doesn't work, sorry. 

No need to apologise - it doesn't work.  It started life as a manually updated process, but the volunteer manual updater had to focus on other life challenges!

tedmanzie said:

What you need is the system they use on basschat where each member has a thread

That looks like a better option than what we've currently got.

I could create a new section in the Classifieds to hold all the threads - one per user.

With time, we could even try to incorporate the existing feedback into the new threads, so that history wasn't lost.  *With time*!

Any downsides - other than the risk of multiple threads being created for an individual member?

Nope.

just make sure feedback threads can't be deleted.

photek

I don't see the problem with the +1 list on here. Really quickly go to the first page, find the user name and read the number next to it.

If you need to leave multiple +1's it takes seconds rather than finding the users thread and commenting. I suspect more folk are likely to leave feedback if it is a simple +1@blah.

TTony

photek said:

I don't see the problem with the +1 list on here. Really quickly go to the first page, find the user name and read the number next to it.

The problem is that *someone* has to read all the posts in the thread and then update that number on the first page list.

It's not been updated in about 18 months.  We need a system that doesn't rely on a someone to do that work.

Alnico said:

TTony said:

appoint a feedback mod who'd be the person able to create those threads, ensuring no duplication.

I've got loads of time on my hands now. I can handle that for you if you like ?

Just let me know.

photek

I know dude I did it for a year or so before Jooky. Once it is up to date it doesn't take long. I don't have a home computer anymore otherwise I would do it. It's a bitch to do on an iPad lol.

octatonic

I'm happy to help out with the admin of the rep system, if you need it.

xtedmanzie

fretmeister said:

TTony said:

tedmanzie said:

Hello

I'm new to this forum but an old member on Basschat. 

Welcome!

tedmanzie said:

The 'good trader v4 thread' doesn't work, sorry. 

No need to apologise - it doesn't work.  It started life as a manually updated process, but the volunteer manual updater had to focus on other life challenges!

tedmanzie said:

What you need is the system they use on basschat where each member has a thread

That looks like a better option than what we've currently got.

I could create a new section in the Classifieds to hold all the threads - one per user.

With time, we could even try to incorporate the existing feedback into the new threads, so that history wasn't lost.  *With time*!

Any downsides - other than the risk of multiple threads being created for an individual member?

Nope.

just make sure feedback threads can't be deleted.

It seems to work ok on basschat - kind of self policing, self generating system that doesn't rely on moderators to work it. I'm sure it has plusses and minuses, but I've done about 50 trades on there and always found it quite a helpful system. If you're the thread starter I'm not sure if you can delete posts. But often feedback threads are started by buyers anyway.

You're right, Basschat charges either a subscription or one off fee to adverstise items over £50. There are mixed views on that!

xtedmanzie

fretmeister said:

TTony said:

tedmanzie said:

Hello

I'm new to this forum but an old member on Basschat. 

Welcome!

tedmanzie said:

The 'good trader v4 thread' doesn't work, sorry. 

No need to apologise - it doesn't work.  It started life as a manually updated process, but the volunteer manual updater had to focus on other life challenges!

tedmanzie said:

What you need is the system they use on basschat where each member has a thread

That looks like a better option than what we've currently got.

I could create a new section in the Classifieds to hold all the threads - one per user.

With time, we could even try to incorporate the existing feedback into the new threads, so that history wasn't lost.  *With time*!

Any downsides - other than the risk of multiple threads being created for an individual member?

Nope.

just make sure feedback threads can't be deleted.

It seems to work ok on basschat - kind of self policing, self generating system that doesn't rely on moderators to work it. I'm sure it has plusses and minuses, but I've done about 50 trades on there and always found it quite a helpful system. If you're the thread starter I'm not sure if you can delete posts. But often feedback threads are started by buyers anyway.

You're right, Basschat charges either a subscription or one off fee to adverstise items over £50. There are mixed views on that!