Milkman amps - do they deliver?

Rocker

Creamy distortion.  Or 'plays like butter'*

*Damn, that is how guitars offered for sale are described.

RaymondLin

£2600? You could get a lazy J with enough change for a return ticket to NYC. 

Wazmeister

I think that they look gorgeous 

fretfinder

Great gags lads, I've had a reet good chortle! LOLs duly awarded.

tone1

Not on a Sunday

newi123

They do deliver, but only early in the morning and very quietly.

simonk

Loving the tour bus:
(I used to love waking up to the sound of these humming and clinking their way up and down our road... happy reminiscing)
https://i.imgur.com/qjg2aSl.jpg

usedtobe

It's a shit name, imho..

richardhomer

usedtobe said:

It's a shit name, imho..

Perhaps there's room for a budget line called 'Bin Men'?

Bygone_Tones

Chalky said:

So I tried their best Milkman amp at Andertons.

Lee said "What do you think?"

I said "Its always lacked something."  

He said "Bass, its always lacked Bass?".

"No", I said "Its always lacked ...er...."

"Upper mids?"

"No, its always lacked...them....er...."

He thought for a moment then exclaimed "Harmonics!!"

"That's right!" I said. "Its always lactose..."

Lee Anderton loved a widow, a lady known as Sue,
She lived all alone in Liddley Lane at number 22.
They said she was too good for him, she was haughty, proud and chic,
But Lee Anderton got his cocoa there three times every week.

They called him Captain, (Captaaaaaaaiiiinnnn)
And he owned the loudest amp shop in the west.

martinw

Bygone_Tones said:

Chalky said:

So I tried their best Milkman amp at Andertons.

Lee said "What do you think?"

I said "Its always lacked something."  

He said "Bass, its always lacked Bass?".

"No", I said "Its always lacked ...er...."

"Upper mids?"

"No, its always lacked...them....er...."

He thought for a moment then exclaimed "Harmonics!!"

"That's right!" I said. "Its always lactose..."

Lee Anderton loved a widow, a lady known as Sue,
She lived all alone in Liddley Lane at number 22.
They said she was too good for him, she was haughty, proud and chic,
But Lee Anderton got his cocoa there three times every week.

They called him Captain, (Captaaaaaaaiiiinnnn)
And he owned the loudest amp shop in the west.

I used to have that on a 45!

Wazmeister

Kebabkid said:

I heard they work best with a Gold Top (sound of tumbleweeds)

I tried one at Andertons a few months ago and I think it was the Creamer. I couldn't see what all the fuss. It was Fender Deluxe-ish and nowt particularly special about it. I certainly didn't think it warranted the hefty price tag.
Maybe I need to try some udder models!

In contrast that same day, I then tried a couple of the Morgan amps they'd just got in and they were fantastic and at least £500 cheaper. Now they are something special and loud for their wattage. I've since tried a couple at Guitar Guitar and for the first time, they're making me question my Divided by 13.

An aside I know, but which Morgans did you play and like mate ?

Bygone_Tones

martinw said:

Bygone_Tones said:

Chalky said:

So I tried their best Milkman amp at Andertons.

Lee said "What do you think?"

I said "Its always lacked something."  

He said "Bass, its always lacked Bass?".

"No", I said "Its always lacked ...er...."

"Upper mids?"

"No, its always lacked...them....er...."

He thought for a moment then exclaimed "Harmonics!!"

"That's right!" I said. "Its always lactose..."

Lee Anderton loved a widow, a lady known as Sue,
She lived all alone in Liddley Lane at number 22.
They said she was too good for him, she was haughty, proud and chic,
But Lee Anderton got his cocoa there three times every week.

They called him Captain, (Captaaaaaaaiiiinnnn)
And he owned the loudest amp shop in the west.

I used to have that on a 45!

with those exact lyrics? wow.

hotpickups

martinw said:

Bygone_Tones said:

Chalky said:

So I tried their best Milkman amp at Andertons.

Lee said "What do you think?"

I said "Its always lacked something."  

He said "Bass, its always lacked Bass?".

"No", I said "Its always lacked ...er...."

"Upper mids?"

"No, its always lacked...them....er...."

He thought for a moment then exclaimed "Harmonics!!"

"That's right!" I said. "Its always lactose..."

Lee Anderton loved a widow, a lady known as Sue,
She lived all alone in Liddley Lane at number 22.
They said she was too good for him, she was haughty, proud and chic,
But Lee Anderton got his cocoa there three times every week.

They called him Captain, (Captaaaaaaaiiiinnnn)
And he owned the loudest amp shop in the west.

I used to have that on a 45!

Me too lol

martinw

hotpickups said:

martinw said:

Bygone_Tones said:

Chalky said:

So I tried their best Milkman amp at Andertons.

Lee said "What do you think?"

I said "Its always lacked something."  

He said "Bass, its always lacked Bass?".

"No", I said "Its always lacked ...er...."

"Upper mids?"

"No, its always lacked...them....er...."

He thought for a moment then exclaimed "Harmonics!!"

"That's right!" I said. "Its always lactose..."

Lee Anderton loved a widow, a lady known as Sue,
She lived all alone in Liddley Lane at number 22.
They said she was too good for him, she was haughty, proud and chic,
But Lee Anderton got his cocoa there three times every week.

They called him Captain, (Captaaaaaaaiiiinnnn)
And he owned the loudest amp shop in the west.

I used to have that on a 45!

Me too lol

Do you remember the B side?

"Stick your finger in your ear and go ting-a-ling-a-loo!"

Not Benny's finest hour.

 

Wazmeister

RiftAmps said:

Wazmeister said:

TGP reviews seem to say that they are good, nice but nowhere near the price levels. I have looked at them too as visually they look great...

Tim's amplifiers are fantastic but the prices are somewhat eye watering, that's what happens when you sell boutique amps through a dealer network. I've done some sums...

Take the 20w 1x12" Creamer as an example - £2699

subtract VAT (2699/1.2) - £2249

then subtract Anderton's margin (30% on these) - (2249/1.3) - £1730

then subtract import duty rate of 3.4% (1730/1.034) - £1673 (no import VAT to recharge to customer as he'll claim it back)

Deduct shipping and other expenses, Andertons are probably buying these in for £1600 per unit, for reference the US retail price is $2899 (£2353 approx) - nice discount!

A very similar spec'd amp from myself and other UK builders is around £1300-£1500. If I sold it exclusively through a dealer network rather than 'direct to customer', it would easily be £700 more expensive.

Saying that, if the amp gives you that sound, then it's worth every penny (or cent).

Wow awarded !

Very interesting info mate...

Jtaylor

I tried out the 20w and 5w milkman at Andertons and absolutely loved the 20w. It a different flavour to a lazy j, as to which one you prefer is upto you, I prefer the milkman myself though. Best bet is to go and try one yourself as everyone has different opinions  

Kebabkid

Wazmeister said:

Kebabkid said:

I heard they work best with a Gold Top (sound of tumbleweeds)

I tried one at Andertons a few months ago and I think it was the Creamer. I couldn't see what all the fuss. It was Fender Deluxe-ish and nowt particularly special about it. I certainly didn't think it warranted the hefty price tag.
Maybe I need to try some udder models!

In contrast that same day, I then tried a couple of the Morgan amps they'd just got in and they were fantastic and at least £500 cheaper. Now they are something special and loud for their wattage. I've since tried a couple at Guitar Guitar and for the first time, they're making me question my Divided by 13.

An aside I know, but which Morgans did you play and like mate ?

@Wazmeister - I tried the PR12R and the AC20 and there was a second-hand model in Andertons that I also went through and they called it "Morgan's take on a Dumble" but I can't remember if that was the SW22R.

They were all great with this 3-dimensional quality to them but my favourite was the PR12 and that's such a sweet-sounding amp; that and the SWR22 have lovely reverb units and whilst the AC20 doesn't have reverb, you could be mistaken for thinking it does (room verb).

They're louder than you'd expect and I'd love to hear a PR12R live with a band or in a rehearsal room to see if it could keep up with a drummer as that would also make a great home amp but the AC20 is probably the more realistic live amp and it does have power scaling. That's the model that I've tried the most (3 times now).

The cleans matched my Divided but seemed a little more percussive and none of the combos sounded boxy.

BTW, at both Andertons and Guitar Guitar (Epsom), I took my pedalboard along when I tried them and they're fantastic pedal platforms.

Barnezy

RiftAmps said:

Wazmeister said:

TGP reviews seem to say that they are good, nice but nowhere near the price levels. I have looked at them too as visually they look great...

Tim's amplifiers are fantastic but the prices are somewhat eye watering, that's what happens when you sell boutique amps through a dealer network. I've done some sums...

Take the 20w 1x12" Creamer as an example - £2699

subtract VAT (2699/1.2) - £2249

then subtract Anderton's margin (30% on these) - (2249/1.3) - £1730

then subtract import duty rate of 3.4% (1730/1.034) - £1673 (no import VAT to recharge to customer as he'll claim it back)

Deduct shipping and other expenses, Andertons are probably buying these in for £1600 per unit, for reference the US retail price is $2899 (£2353 approx) - nice discount!

A very similar spec'd amp from myself and other UK builders is around £1300-£1500. If I sold it exclusively through a dealer network rather than 'direct to customer', it would easily be £700 more expensive.

Saying that, if the amp gives you that sound, then it's worth every penny (or cent).

Hi Rift, am I right in thinking you sell exclusively through Andertons now? 

hotpickups

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