Classical Guitar Knowledge

dean111musicdean111music Frets: 278
edited February 2017 in Theory
Hi

I was wondering if anyone can help. This may seem obvious to some people but i need to know what style, period and musical form these pieces are in for Grade 5 classical guitar.

EL Caminante - Ernesto Cordero 1946 




Period - Modern Classical ????
Form - Rondo  ?????
Style - Romantic ???????



La nave de zvonimir - Leonardo Bravo 1967 -





Period - Modern Classical ??????
Form - Ternary ????
Style - Modern Composition ???





Etude no.11 - Jean-Maurice Mourat 1946



Period - Modern Classical
Form - Rondo ?????
Style - Romantic???





Common Musical Forms:
Strophic - AAA, etc.
Binary - AB.
Ternary - ABA.
Rondo - ABACA, or ABACADA.
Arch - ABCBA.
Sonata Form - Exposition: (Theme Group 1 - Theme Group 2) --- Development --- Recapitulation: (Theme Group 1 - Theme Group 2)
Sonata Rondo - ABA - C - ABA.

Styles are here http://www.musicgenreslist.com/music-classical/


Just need to make sure i'm correct on this! Any help would be great!
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  • vizviz Frets: 10681
    They're all written recently, ie in the modern classical period - but is that what the question means? Seems a bit obvious.

    The first is binary (moves from a minor to D major), the 2nd is rondo (E - c#m - E) and the 3rd is like a mini sonata form with a subject in C, the development going through A-dm-G-C, and the recaptulation in C again. For style, it's difficult because they all have essence of the classical music styles, to my ear anyway; so the first is romantic-ish, the 2nd is classical-ish and the 3rd is baroque-ish. But as the 3rd is sonata form, you'd possibly have to say it was classical because although it has essence-of baroque in it, sonata form only really applies from classical period onwards. And anyway, you've posted a different piece, so don't know what the best answer is here. 
    Roland said: Scales are primarily a tool for categorising knowledge, not a rule for what can or cannot be played.
    Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
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  • thanks for your answer! So just to clarify.

    EL Caminante - Ernesto Cordero 1946

    Binary - Am to D major

    So Binary is AB and can or has to change key?

    Romantic


    What would you say the subdominant chord would be?

    Am would be Dm?
    D would be G


    La nave de zvonimir - Leonardo Bravo 1967 

    Rondo

    Modern Composition

    Sub dominant - A 


    Etude no.11 - Jean-Maurice Mourat 1946

    found it! 



    what are the changes here?


    Modulating from minor to major to minor with variations in melody so Rondo?

    Whats the overall key and Subdominant?

    Baroque?




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  • vizviz Frets: 10681
    Yes to your summary.

    The new one starts in a minor (you should have no sharps or flats in the key sig and the odd g# in the music), then modulates to the subdominant, d minor (you should see some b flats in the music), then right at the end it modulates back to a minor. It's quasi-baroque style with lost of fugual influence but it isn't truly speaking a fugue. I'd say it's 2-part fugual writing in a sort of rondo form. But none of them follows their original forms strictly so it's quite hard to say!
    Roland said: Scales are primarily a tool for categorising knowledge, not a rule for what can or cannot be played.
    Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
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  • haha i'm glad I'm not the only one to get confused by this.

    So just outlining the chords...


    Em is the first chord and then from what i can make out,

    Section B
    Chords start with A then section starts Dm Bb Em C F A  so the key is Dm

    Section C key of Am

    Section D isin Dm then goes back into Am at the end. 

    So key signature only references Am (no sharps or Flats)


    So when they ask for subdominant of the pieces. its fair to say Am is the overall key of the piece as its the last chord and its used in section C.

    The Subdominant would be the IV of Am or the IV of C?  

    Can a subdominant be in minor and major?

    Thanks for your patience


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  • This isn't your homework, is it? ;)
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