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WezV · February 2018

I mainly want one for acoustic stuff... but it would come in handy for the LP I forgot to route for binding before the carve.

One of those things I have just found ways round so far

Danielsguitars · February 2018

WezV said:

I mainly want one for acoustic stuff... but it would come in handy for the LP I forgot to route for binding before the carve.

One of those things I have just found ways round so far

The best one I ever used was at college, the tutor had his friend who works at McLaren make one that's on an arm

I used it on my acoustic and it was bloody fantastic

My friend used the same jig as mine for his benedetto arch top build and that worked out well, it took him longer to get the courage up to do it, only 2 years work part time

poopot · February 2018

GSPBASSES said:

You can save a lot of money at Wealden tools on re-bate cutters.

https://www.wealdentool.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Small_Series_212.html

Oh blimey!!!!! Now I’ve seen that I’m thinking it’s more than doable.

The body is a uniform thickness all the way round, I’m thinking, a rig to suspend my router and just run it round the body...

someone talk me out of this!!!!

SteveRobinson · February 2018

GSPBASSES said:

I got the Stew Mac one, its not mine but it does live in my workshop, has done for about 10 years, most likely never been used for about 10 years.

I bought one about 10 years ago. I don't think I've ever used it either!

poopot · February 2018

Using the rebate cutter Graham linked to, any reason this couldn’t work?

http://a64.tinypic.com/1zf7j8i.jpg

WezV · February 2018

poopot said:

Using the rebate cutter Graham linked to, any reason this couldn’t work?

http://a64.tinypic.com/1zf7j8i.jpg

It will for 90% of it.

The binding in the cutaway is trickier if you want it to follow the carve.

you would still need to do the last bit by hand. Where it meets the neck

are you planing to do the neck too?

Nomad · February 2018

The "brick/lump of wood/ books etc" could do with some engineering refinement. Rigidity of the mounting of the router is rather important.

poopot · February 2018

WezV said:

It will for 90% of it.

The binding in the cutaway is trickier if you want it to follow the carve.

you would still need to do the last bit by hand. Where it meets the neck

are you planing to do the neck too?

Just thinking feasibility at the moment... it’ll probably never get done... that said, if I did the neck I guess I’d learn about refretting etc.

Nomad said:

The "brick/lump of wood/ books etc" could do with some engineering refinement. Rigidity of the mounting of the router is rather important.

Was thinking further on this. My router has a removable fence which is mounted to the router base with two rods... these could easily be clamped to something substantial...

Nomad · February 2018

poopot said:

Was thinking further on this. My router has a removable fence which is mounted to the router base with two rods... these could easily be clamped to something substantial...

That might work, but check carefully for any play or wobble - the rods aren't a snug fit in the holes like dowels are in precision engineering. If there's wobble, you could get chatter or vibration, which would affect the quality of the cut.

Another thing to check is the distance from the back of the body to the edge at the front that you'd be cutting into. If that changes as you go around the outline, the binding channel will have a changing height with respect to the top of the guitar. The router binding jig in the video above floats up and down to follow the height change in the guitar body.

Sporky · February 2018

poopot said:

GSPBASSES said:

You can save a lot of money at Wealden tools on re-bate cutters.

https://www.wealdentool.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Small_Series_212.html

Oh blimey!!!!! Now I’ve seen that I’m thinking it’s more than doable.

I can also vouch for the Wealden cutters - they're pretty much the only ones I buy any more. I have some older CMTs that are OK, and a couple of Infinity Tools ones, everything else I've tried hasn't been up to the Wealden standard, and most are more expensive.

GSPBASSES · February 2018

poopot said:

Using the rebate cutter Graham linked to, any reason this couldn’t work?

http://a64.tinypic.com/1zf7j8i.jpg

I think you will need something more substantial than your drawing suggests, see the photos below. That's my overhead router rig, you can see by the size of the steel I've used to make it strong enough to support a router so it can cut very accurately. Any sort of movement when machining not only will it give you an inaccurate cut, there is always a possibility that the cutter will snatch and cause all sorts of problems, like ripping the guitar out your hand and throwing it across the workshop.

poopot · February 2018

GSPBASSES said:

poopot said:

Using the rebate cutter Graham linked to, any reason this couldn’t work?

http://a64.tinypic.com/1zf7j8i.jpg

I think you will need something more substantial than your drawing suggests, see the photos below. That's my overhead router rig, you can see by the size of the steel I've used to make it strong enough to support a router so it can cut very accurately. Any sort of movement when machining not only will it give you an inaccurate cut, there is always a possibility that the cutter will snatch and cause all sorts of problems, like ripping the guitar out your hand and throwing it across the workshop.

I think you’ve just talked me out of that idea!

Sham61 · February 2018

I also vouch for Wealden. I have quite a few of their cutters, bought others but always go back to Wealden. A good range and top quality.

poopot · February 2018

SteveRobinson said:

Here's one a customer of mine did. I think he did a decent job of his Les Paul Studio

He posted the project on Gretsch Pages (I think) but I can't find the thread.

Found it!... took a while tho’

http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/56-goldtop-from-les-paul-studio-conversion-project.385960/

WezV · February 2018

I just did my sycamore LP with the crappy dremel attachment as I forgot to add the channel before the carve.

reasonable results this time but I still hate it

poopot · February 2018

WezV said:

I just did my sycamore LP with the crappy dremel attachment as I forgot to add the channel before the carve.

reasonable results this time but I still hate it

Any pics?

WezV · February 2018

poopot said:

WezV said:

I just did my sycamore LP with the crappy dremel attachment as I forgot to add the channel before the carve.

reasonable results this time but I still hate it

Any pics?

There will be later

poopot · February 2018

@WezV having seen the thread on the lp forum, coupled with the fact the Mrs is leaving for Miami in the morning I am so tempted just to crack on with it...

WezV · February 2018

poopot said:

SteveRobinson said:

Here's one a customer of mine did. I think he did a decent job of his Les Paul Studio

He posted the project on Gretsch Pages (I think) but I can't find the thread.

Found it!... took a while tho’

http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/56-goldtop-from-les-paul-studio-conversion-project.385960/

Yep, that shows exactly how involved it is

poopot · February 2018

WezV said:

poopot said:

SteveRobinson said:

Here's one a customer of mine did. I think he did a decent job of his Les Paul Studio

He posted the project on Gretsch Pages (I think) but I can't find the thread.

Found it!... took a while tho’

http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/56-goldtop-from-les-paul-studio-conversion-project.385960/

Yep, that shows exactly how involved it is

Will sleep on it... but... watch out for an “I’ve reduced a perfectly good guitar to dust” thread soon!...

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