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I get people with this attitude in my studio occasionally. They are very rarely as good as their ego would have them believe. Anyone who believes they are “too good” can, quite frankly, fuck right off.
Personally, I'm gutted.
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Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youI was confused by the level of negativity your post showed towards an event designed to bring people together and encourage guitarists who maybe aren’t overly experienced or confident in a positive, safe environment.
Surely if you’re not interest you’d have been better not commenting at all. Maybe even offer some constructive suggestions at how the event could be improved, so that it may be if interest to you.
it’s a shame you feel it’s waste of your time, there are some great people, great players, and incredible gear to meet/see. Plus, it’s a bloody good laugh.
I posted a reply to a few posts that suggested that some members may be put off the jam sessions because they felt they had to sign up to the formal recorded sessions during the event. A very specific comment/query about a specific group of members who (by the implication of the post) were only put off by the above fact.
However, @Plectrum decides to stroll in and address something completely different in what I took to be a rude, arrogant and irrelevant way. Fine - the jam sessions are not for them. And yes, I've considered there's lots of reasons why people might not want to come.
It may not seem it, but they take a hell of a lot of organising - for frankly little to no reward for the organisers at all. I've considered stopping doing it many many times as I don't want the wife to kick me out and it's a bunch of stress that I honestly could do without.
But, I do it because (I'm told) some people who do choose to come get a huge amount out of it. Anyway - thanks @Plectrum - you've reminded me once again that I wonder why I even bother organising them in the first place. If some members here think it's fine to swish into a thread like this and broadly rubbish the effort that goes into it in a patronising, rude, and arrogant way, then these jams aren't something I want to be a part of any more.
Don’t take it to heart. These events are great and I’ve seen how much everyone appreciates them, and the effort that goes into them.
As far as I'm aware I don't (yet) know anyone here IRL, but what I do know is that it's pretty easy to make a tone-deaf posting on a forum, with the best of intentions. @Plectrum 's core point is valid (not everyone on the forum is going to find these things attractive because their 'needs' are met elsewhere) and could well have been offered as an objective thing in a kind of "don't get down if not everyone values the things you do" way.
OK, it was poorly expressed, but I know that I've waded in with written communications that I thought were perfectly clear (either that they were objectively helpful and emotionally neutral, or were intended to be light-hearted) only to have to spend the next week putting the genie back in the bottle as everyone goes "Woo-ah!" and dog-piles me for being a twat. Not here (not yet) but elsewhere.
It's very hard to judge tone from writing, and it's impossible for the writer to judge the mood of the reader at the point the thing is read. So deep breaths and assuming the best until someone double-downs on arseholery can make for a gentler life (bloody hippy).
Maybe Plectrum is arrogant; maybe she just expressed herself badly. I'd prefer to assume the latter in the short term.
On the subject of the appeal of the events, as this is going to be my first I can say with absolute confidence that I love the idea of it, but there are mixed messages (particularly when read through my insecurities) as they're discussed. There's a lot of encouragement that they're supportive, and it doesn't matter if you're crap, and you can just do whatever you feel able. But there's also a handful of posts that make me think "Damn, I'd better get some serious practice in, otherwise everyone's going to be really pissed off with me and I'll have the worst weekend ever". I'm putting my faith in the first set being the accurate ones. I'll piss you all off for other reasons
Oh, and @monofin I wouldn't worry, they'll all be too busy laughing at me to get around to you
Edit to add:
Having organised all manner of things myself I the past, I also know the huge amount of effort required, and how easy it is to feel no bugger actually supports you or cares. So @ttony, @Legionreturns , @Bridgehouse , @Sasquatch_Bob and anyone else involved in the doing of this - big thanks in advance. I'm really looking forward to it. You know, in between the crapping myself that you'll all hate me and I'll mess it up.
Honestly, really fancy this especially as it's sat and sun.
Just need to (a) get over my confidence issues (b) be sure I can make the time to actually learn a song
So learn what you can and come along regardless. The thing is, join in the 'other' room for practising and putting something together and you can decide from there if you want to do it in front of people. I found out the hard way that pretty much the only way to confront the confidence issue is to get out there and do summat regardless.
It's like learning to ride a bike when you're a kid. The only way to learn is to get on one and have a go. You'll fall off a couple of times, of course you will - what matters is do you get back on and have another go till you get used to it?
Oh, and there's a reason everyone at these things is so supportive of each other - because we've all been there before!