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  • Fretwired said:
    Honda will come good .. they were forced to enter the sport a year early by Ron.
    A few days ago, Yasuhisa Arai said it would be very difficult to supply Toro Rosso with engines. That Honda can say that openly and thus signal that they don't want additional clients paying a good few million for the privilege should worry McLaren even further. Mark Hughes had a decent article out recently on the problems Honda face in 2016.






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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 24601
    edited October 2015

    Fretwired said:
    Honda will come good .. they were forced to enter the sport a year early by Ron.
    A few days ago, Yasuhisa Arai said it would be very difficult to supply Toro Rosso with engines. That Honda can say that openly and thus signal that they don't want additional clients paying a good few million for the privilege should worry McLaren even further. Mark Hughes had a decent article out recently on the problems Honda face in 2016.



    Alonso is starting at the back of the grid in Russia as he has a brand new redesigned Honda power plant. Honda have used up all their tokens in one go. Let's see what happens.

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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 22096
    edited October 2015
    Garthy said:
    2nd highest ticket prices to get in the gate, £7 for a burger, £4 for a coke and a bloody short memory for MotoGP and pure fantasy regarding the history of F1. 


    The 1982 season had 11 different race winners. From 1982 to 2013, I added the number of different winners per season together (174) and divided by the number of seasons in total (32). You end up with an average of 5.44 different winners per season. 

    If you wish to go with F1 in the modern points scoring era and the Red Bull dominant period, between 2003 and 2013, the total reads 61/11 = 5.45.

    The post Senna/Ferrari dominant period from 1995 to 2002 reads 38/8 = an average of 4.75 different race winners per season in that period. 

    Only once in the 1982-2013 period was there a season with three race winners (1988 where the Prost-Senna McLarens dominated and would have nailed every race that season had it not been for Jean-Louis Schlesser and Senna's misjudgement). Even in the 2001 and 2002 seasons where Ferrari dominated, you had 5 and 4 different race winners respectively. 1988 had a fierce rivalry between two of the greatest F1 drivers of all time. Hamilton versus Britney is not the same. 

    In 2014, we had three race winners. Thus far in 2015 we have three different race winners. 

    Statistically it is reasonable to say that we have had less variety of race winners in the last two years then we have had in many a year. And from a purely personal point of view, it's the most boring season I can remember, and my first F1 memory was being very happy as a kid watching Elio De Angelis win at San Marino in 1985 :)





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  • Fretwired said:
    Alonso is starting at the back of the grid in Russia as he has a brand new redesigned Honda power plant. Honda have used up all their tokens in one go. Let's see what happens.
    Systems failure in Practice Session 1. Something will leak during qualifying. Alonso flips his lid and decides to drive the rest of the race in third. The end of race interview is carried out by Martin Whitmarsh disguised as David Hasselhoff. 



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  • GarthyGarthy Frets: 2268

    Fretwired said:
    Honda will come good .. they were forced to enter the sport a year early by Ron.
    A few days ago, Yasuhisa Arai said it would be very difficult to supply Toro Rosso with engines. That Honda can say that openly and thus signal that they don't want additional clients paying a good few million for the privilege should worry McLaren even further. Mark Hughes had a decent article out recently on the problems Honda face in 2016.



    That's astonishing. They are making mistakes that you'd expect an 18 year old lad tuning a Nissan 200SX to make in his dad's garage. Go on any technical forum and you'll see everyone preaching "cooling, cooling cooling". It's not a dark art, it's basic common knowledge and there's 1000 engineers stealing a living at Sakura if that article is accurate.
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 24601
    Fretwired said:
    Alonso is starting at the back of the grid in Russia as he has a brand new redesigned Honda power plant. Honda have used up all their tokens in one go. Let's see what happens.
    Systems failure in Practice Session 1. Something will leak during qualifying. Alonso flips his lid and decides to drive the rest of the race in third. The end of race interview is carried out by Martin Whitmarsh disguised as David Hasselhoff. 
    I remember (about 250 pages back) people laughing at Hamilton moving to Mercedes - a team which had under performed. The Mercedes board wanted to leave but the chairman got a stay of execution. Things can turn round very quickly.

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  • Garthy said:
    That's astonishing. They are making mistakes that you'd expect an 18 year old lad tuning a Nissan 200SX to make in his dad's garage. Go on any technical forum and you'll see everyone preaching "cooling, cooling cooling". It's not a dark art, it's basic common knowledge and there's 1000 engineers stealing a living at Sakura if that article is accurate.
    Hughes generally isn't one of the hyperbolic writers out there. It paints a dismal picture. It's hard to think what would be the bigger disaster: spending 2016 running a small compressor that doesn't produce the grunt they want but doesn't force a reshaping of the bodywork, or running a larger compressor but having to redesign the car. 



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  • Fretwired said:
    I remember (about 250 pages back) people laughing at Hamilton moving to Mercedes - a team which had under performed. The Mercedes board wanted to leave but the chairman got a stay of execution. Things can turn round very quickly.
    A team which underperformed aerodynamically but had a decent engine in 2012, as Hamilton well knew as he was driving it in his McLaren, and still managed to win one race. The rule changes made it pretty clear that power units were going to be the kingmaker rather than aero, as we've seen with the Red Bull dropoff this season. Hamilton's decision wasn't foolish at all to me. 

    Things can turn aroudn quickly but Mercedes had everything there to succeed. McLaren don't. The Mercs went winning one race in 2012 to dominating 2014/15. A similar level of positive results for McLaren based on this season would be hitting Q2 regularly next year
    =))



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  • GarthyGarthy Frets: 2268
    Garthy said:
    That's astonishing. They are making mistakes that you'd expect an 18 year old lad tuning a Nissan 200SX to make in his dad's garage. Go on any technical forum and you'll see everyone preaching "cooling, cooling cooling". It's not a dark art, it's basic common knowledge and there's 1000 engineers stealing a living at Sakura if that article is accurate.
    Hughes generally isn't one of the hyperbolic writers out there. It paints a dismal picture. It's hard to think what would be the bigger disaster: spending 2016 running a small compressor that doesn't produce the grunt they want but doesn't force a reshaping of the bodywork, or running a larger compressor but having to redesign the car. 
    They need a physically larger car, all of their problems are due to being unable to cool the entire back half of the car sufficiently.
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 24601
    Red Bull to remain in F1 with Renault Engines ... deal brokered by Bernie ..

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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 23930

    FP1: Been a diesel spillage on the track! Marshalls have tried to clean it with old fashioned water. Now if I remember my basic chemistry diesel is not greatly water soluble...

    Surely someone has some proper degreasing agents at a race track?

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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 22096
    edited October 2015

    FP1: Been a diesel spillage on the track! Marshalls have tried to clean it with old fashioned water. Now if I remember my basic chemistry diesel is not greatly water soluble...

    Surely someone has some proper degreasing agents at a race track?


    In communist Russia, race track degreases you!

    Still nothing confirmed about Red Bull and Renault. Horner being cagey, people talking about Arden F1 and Horner doing a Brawn with RBR...

    And who cares? It's the final Blancpain Sprint race of the season from Zandvoort this weekend and the Bathurst 1000 from the ever-fantastic Mount Panorama :)








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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 17136
    Diesel? Have the Russians entered F1, then?


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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 24601
    Diesel? Have the Russians entered F1, then?
    First F1 car is a T34 ... not quick round the corners, but it blasts it's opponents on the straights ...

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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 17136
    The Wartburg Grand Prix team are denying reports they dropped diesel on the track, as their car runs on vodka.


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  • Fretwired said:First F1 car is a T34 ... not quick round the corners, but it blasts it's opponents on the straights ...
    Sounds like the Mercedes circa 2011. 



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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 24601
    Ferrari have officially said no to supplying Red Bull with engines .. it's Renault or bust. They will supply Torro Rosso.

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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 22096
    edited October 2015
    Fretwired said:
    I remember (about 250 pages back) people laughing at Hamilton moving to Mercedes - a team which had under performed. The Mercedes board wanted to leave but the chairman got a stay of execution. Things can turn round very quickly.
    ...and even in the limited P2 running today, Alonso got called back to the pits with a problem. P3 is going to be a nuts session for all the teams. 



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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 17136
    Button outqualifying Alonso. Didn't Fred have a super-duper new engine, though?


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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 24601
    Button outqualifying Alonso. Didn't Fred have a super-duper new engine, though?
    No. He used it yesterday but the team reverted to the old engine today so he had the same engine as Button.

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