So what do you think of this?

Loobs

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/fender-blues-junior-valve-tube-amp/1048741931#photo-content

Is this anyone's? Worth £400 or should I try to haggle? 

57Deluxe

If he knows of the Bill M mods then is prob a legit seller but do ask to see a copy of the receipt for either the  work or components, unless you know by eye that they are all integrated in the circuit.

Loobs

How about the price? 

equalsql

It's got BillM's presence mod and you can see the octal mod as well. He would have had to have the transformer change to support that. Those mods are not cheap. The amp looks in good condition too so I reckon that's a fair price of you're in the mood for spec'd up BJr.  

I've done some of the mods on my own amp and they can be a little tricky cos the copper on the PCBs is almost none existent so you might want a 'guts' shot just to check that it's not a ham-fisted job.

[It just needs a coat of lacquer to finish it off B-) ]

Loobs

Thanks.

Loobs

Yeah has 6V6s. What would that do to the tone?

equalsql

Check out Bill's comments on his website:

http://billmaudio.com/wp/?page_id=370

p90fool

It's probably a very good price if you've already decided that you want a Blues Junior with those mods.

On other hand, the seller has probably spent getting on for a grand altogether and has finally given up -  the damn thing STILL sounds like a Blues Jr, so he's getting shot of it before he throws himself under a bus.

ICBM

lol

I agree. I can't help thinking the same about this as any of these really extensive mods… if you need to do that much to it, it was probably the wrong amp to start with, and most likely still will be.

That said, it is possible it could be great, and like p90fool said, if you know you want all that stuff then it's a very good price compared to buying another unmodded one (which wouldn't cost that much less) and doing all that to it. The pine cabinet alone is probably worth the price difference… whether it affects the tone enough to justify it I'm not sure.

bertie

so much wisdom in the last two posts

Loobs

On paper it should sound amazing after all those mods. Seems a bit strange that someone would put so much into it. 

ICBM

Loobs said:

On paper it should sound amazing after all those mods. 

Except that fundamentally, the sound of an amp is more determined by the cicuit than by any one component, or even several components… and the circuit (the whole main PCB, in fact) is still 100% Blues Junior.

Loobs said:

Seems a bit strange that someone would put so much into it. 

Yes, when for the same sort of money you could probably buy a pretty decent Tweed Deluxe copy. (I know they're not exactly the same thing.)

bertie

ICBM said:

Loobs said:

On paper it should sound amazing after all those mods. 

Except that fundamentally, the sound of an amp is more determined by the cicuit than by any one component, or even several components… and the circuit (the whole main PCB, in fact) is still 100% Blues Junior.

you simply cannot buy wisdom like this

fretmeister

I like the Blues Junior.

But there's no escaping that the best thing to do with it is plugging it into a much bigger cabinet.

ICBM

fretmeister said:

I like the Blues Junior.

But there's no escaping that the best thing to do with it is plugging it into a much bigger cabinet.

Like this one?

http://www.topskips.com/skip-hire-blog/wp-content/uploads/Topskips.com-Skip1.jpg

Sorry, too hard to resist .

bertie

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lustycourtier

I had one with all the mods, fully documented, and Weber speaker. Sold for about £20 more than a normal one. The majority dont care for mods.

stickyfiddle

I had a much-modded one too, and it was brilliant for gigging. I paid about halfway between normal used and new price though, which made it great value. I definitely wouldn't mod one myself though- for the cost of getting a breathed on BJ when you could've just gone and got a PRRI or DRRI with the same cash.