Yet another bloody Super Strat

sweepy

http://www.guitarsrebellion.com/crbst_812.html

They look so tired now, Tyler-esque headstock and generic hardware, next 

Schnozz

@sweepy ;

Rubbish! Look harder Noob!!

https://worldguitars.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Vigier-Rock-Art-170086-5.jpg
http://images.peachguitars.com/1/1470136404_0148.jpg
http://williamsguitars.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Evo-7-spalt-featured.jpg
https://www.knightonmusiccentre.com/photos/1519995214-RWsuperstrat90s-056520.jpg

sweepy

My comment stands, just what we need, not !, where is the originality and innovation ?

DrBob

sweepy said:

My comment stands, just what we need, not !, where is the originality and innovation ?

Much as I completely agree I think you only have to look at the hordes of people turning out stone cold relics of Pre CBS Strats & Teles to see that the guitar market isn’t exactly a frenzied mass of innovation 

ThorpyFX

sweepy said:

My comment stands, just what we need, not !, where is the originality and innovation ?

Where guitars are concerned, innovation and originality pretty much isn’t marketable. Anything that falls into that category is usually derided as ugly, unnecessary and ‘not fender or Gibson so why would I buy it?’

neilg

My current most played guitar is an Ibanez FRM200, it's got neck that's very similar to my Les Paul but the body whilst looking nothing like anything else is very comfortable.

darthed1981

sweepy said:

http://www.guitarsrebellion.com/crbst_812.html

They look so tired now, Tyler-esque headstock and generic hardware, next 

So, are you getting one...?

WezV

There is loads of interesting and different stuff out there. Some even innovative, although I would argue innovation doesn’t need to be  the primary goal of most guitar builders.  

most of you wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole.

sweepy

I just get bored with the lazy thinking of most guitar manufacturers, we have, Suhr, Vigier etc  on the high end of the Super Strat spectrum, tweaking the original design to the ‘nth degrees during fulfilling the market demand, I was just questioning that yet another Super Strat is just a cop out where genuine innovation seems to take a back seat

Sporky

sweepy said:

My comment stands, just what we need, not !, where is the originality and innovation ?

Teuffel and Strandberg? 

Seems a bit circular to decry a long established guitar type as not being innovative. 

sweepy

darthed1981 said:

sweepy said:

http://www.guitarsrebellion.com/crbst_812.html

They look so tired now, Tyler-esque headstock and generic hardware, next 

So, are you getting one...?

With depreciation like a stone ? Are you mad ?

darthed1981

sweepy said:

I just get bored with the lazy thinking of most guitar manufacturers, we have, Suhr, Vigier etc  on the high end of the Super Strat spectrum, tweaking the original design to the ‘nth degrees during fulfilling the market demand, I was just questioning that yet another Super Strat is just a cop out where genuine innovation seems to take a back seat

Serious question @sweepy what do you personally want to see?

One could argue a super-strat is in many ways the perfect guitar, most high-end PRS are really either super-strats or super LPs, the whole 80s guitar thing is super-strats, my PRS SE Custom is basically a super strat.

So where should the design train go?

zepp76

sweepy said:

I just get bored with the lazy thinking of most guitar manufacturers, we have, Suhr, Vigier etc  on the high end of the Super Strat spectrum, tweaking the original design to the ‘nth degrees during fulfilling the market demand, I was just questioning that yet another Super Strat is just a cop out where genuine innovation seems to take a back seat

Is it just that there is no more innovation to be had in the guitar building world anymore? I struggle to think just what you could change/add to a guitar that would make it innovative.

Schnozz

I still think superstrats are the most practical/versatile and came about during the best decade for guitar music...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5162/5282951160_307fffd54f_b.jpg

57Deluxe

I'd hate for ppl to mistakenly think I was playing a Chapman...

rossi

DrBob said:

sweepy said:

My comment stands, just what we need, not !, where is the originality and innovation ?

Much as I completely agree I think you only have to look at the hordes of people turning out stone cold relics of Pre CBS Strats & Teles to see that the guitar market isn’t exactly a frenzied mass of innovation 

Why should they  be .They are  just musical instruments .

LaCathedrale_UK

Is that Vai (behind afroman) holding a Jackson? I guess that must be around his Zappa days?

DrBob

rossi said:

DrBob said:

sweepy said:

My comment stands, just what we need, not !, where is the originality and innovation ?

Much as I completely agree I think you only have to look at the hordes of people turning out stone cold relics of Pre CBS Strats & Teles to see that the guitar market isn’t exactly a frenzied mass of innovation 

Why should they  be .They are  just musical instruments .

Again, agreed but should that necessarily preclude further development of the tool ? 
If you think about how much the instrument developed & evolved between 1860 & 1960 it does feel like it’s gone off the boil a bit this past 60 years ..
Or is it that the music we’re playing on it isn’t pushing the development any more ?

Vibetronic

LaCathedrale_UK said:

Is that Vai (behind afroman) holding a Jackson? I guess that must be around his Zappa days?

yes it is, but not when he was with Zappa, this is the mid-80s sometime (that's Michael Sweet from Stryper on the left!). Can't remember what this was, was thinking it was that Hear'n'Aid charity thing, but it's not. Going to really annoy me now!!  (Unless it's just a Charvel/Jackson ad, which I have a feeling it might be now...)

Vibetronic

ah, yes it was an ad Thought I remembered seeing that before: https://forgottenguitar.com/2015/11/11/1006/

timmysoft

We need more super strats because all the current ones are shit