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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    edited June 2018
    It's cos modelling is very high quality that the valve warmth isn't actually needed to gloss over things.  Solid state will he very clean with little warmth and nowhere to hide if sound in isn't already good.  Valve can sweeten and hide a little lower quality which can often be a good thing

    i do find some amp do benefit slightly from running through the GT Trio clean channel.  But then that is a very high end clean pre with serious amounts of headroom so not glossing over as just adding a touch of warmth and shimmer.

    think you'll notice more and more as you use it how bloody high end the models are even compared to modern very expensive options.  Yes helix has more options and is more flexible but gonna predict you will eventually decide gsp is better sounding but not as flexible as helix.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    edited June 2018
    Interestingly (to me anyway) it seems to me that the GSP1101 sounds less different through my solid state power amplifier when compared to my valve amp power section. Not sure why. It feels like there's not a huge benefit in lugging the valve head around

    you'll also find with clever IR auditioning it will sound closer to the/an amp direct to PA as well
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  • drwiddlydrwiddly Frets: 724
    You could go for a small Midi board like a Tech 21 Midi Moose and use it with a Digitech FS300, three button footswitch. The C63 firmware allows you to set up controllers for the buttons on the FS300 so you could use them to turn stomps and fx on and off.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    drwiddly said:
    You could go for a small Midi board like a Tech 21 Midi Moose and use it with a Digitech FS300, three button footswitch. The C63 firmware allows you to set up controllers for the buttons on the FS300 so you could use them to turn stomps and fx on and off.
    Spot on, that's what i was thinking other day when suggested a small midi board.

    You another gsp1101 user?
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    edited June 2018
    The other good bit of kit was the IPB-10 the iPad version of rp1000.  Actually it was really the floor version of the gsp1101 as had the twin dsp chips as opposed to 1 in the RP.  however the newer iPad control software does allow it to do stacked and flexible placement of fx and iirc has same list of amps and efx etc as c63.

    No the IPB doesn't have the capability to do IR like GSP can (well officially) but you can pop all ipb-10's output to iPad and add IR via Rooms and apparently its very effective.  I also like that IPB has two fx loops as opposed to the gsp's 1.

    downsides? Missing midi ports so canny control external devices or an amp channel.... And needs an iPad 2/3 with ios 9 or lower for digitech software.  No pc software (that's a huge gap for me) if it also talked to pc setup software I could have easily setup my gsp and loaded all my presets into ipb-10 (even ability for iPad software to take my xedit backup.  Almost bought one as my grab and go travel light/open mic setup but as already had a spare gsp the fact I'd need to redo all presets annoyed me.  And of course I'd need to make up a mini snake for power, 4cable and power for wireless.  Nah feck it small rack suddenly sounds a lot less hassle.

    if ever see one really cheap I may grab it as a spare direct to pa input for the setup for open mic i run as quick setup via screen of amp type and stomp fx a new player wants is very quick.  But then does a cheap small win 10 tablet with xedit kinds fill same gap?
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  • drwiddlydrwiddly Frets: 724
    mr-mac said:
    drwiddly said:
    You could go for a small Midi board like a Tech 21 Midi Moose and use it with a Digitech FS300, three button footswitch. The C63 firmware allows you to set up controllers for the buttons on the FS300 so you could use them to turn stomps and fx on and off.
    Spot on, that's what i was thinking other day when suggested a small midi board.

    You another gsp1101 user?
    Yup, I've gone Kemper/Axe FX now but I've kept my gsp1101 and the Control 2 as back up and I still use it as a grab and go now and again. Great piece of kit.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    edited June 2018
    drwiddly said:
    mr-mac said:
    drwiddly said:
    You could go for a small Midi board like a Tech 21 Midi Moose and use it with a Digitech FS300, three button footswitch. The C63 firmware allows you to set up controllers for the buttons on the FS300 so you could use them to turn stomps and fx on and off.
    Spot on, that's what i was thinking other day when suggested a small midi board.

    You another gsp1101 user?
    Yup, I've gone Kemper/Axe FX now but I've kept my gsp1101 and the Control 2 as back up and I still use it as a grab and go now and again. Great piece of kit.
    It is... Know a metal band that went from axe and kemper to both on a gsp and another kemper guy who goes back to his gsp for gigs he needs a jcm800/900 sounds as he reckons it sits in mix better along side other guitarists Axe.  At price they really do stay close to highest end bit with a little less flexibility than todays crop. 

    s/h at under £300 these days for both gsp and control 2 there isn't much gets you close to big boys at that end of price spectrum
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  • GarpGarp Frets: 195
    Use my GSP 1101 and Control 2 in the rock covers band I'm in. 4CM with a Cornford Roadhouse 50.

    Mostly use the Cornford pre-amp and the GSP for effects but have a few patches using the GSP pre-amps - fender amp for a clean sound, JTM 45 for a medium gain crunch and SLO and 5150 for some heavier stuff.

    I've also been experimenting with using the send level control to adjust the gain going to the input of the Cornford to give me a wider range of gain settings from the amp.





    It's only got five strings... and three of them are G.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    Nice setup, yeah send level then preset vol at other side should allow you to drive preamp harder and keep the preset same volume as rest.  Planning same on my GT trio preamp to increase nunber of tones it provides.  On GSP the ampdriver pedal can work well too as seems to increase gain but without adding too much character so feels like increasing the gain from amp.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    edited July 2018
    @Garp ;; I also plan on trying out my cheap Nux PMS-2 in place of an extra amp footswitch to allow GSP to also switch combo amp channel for my smaller setup that doesn't have gt trio. 
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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 799
    Any recommendations for good IRs to load into the GSP? I don't want to go down an IR rabbit hole but it would be good to try out a few. Thanks!
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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 799
    So I downloaded the free Ownhammer Mesa 4x12 ones and stuck the first 10 on the GSP...interesting. I wouldn't say they are a million miles away from the stock cabs. These particular ones sound quite similar to the stock "British 1x12" cab for some reason. Maybe with a bit more complexity to them.

    I was running the 1/4" output into a 44 Magnum and Orange 1x12 and the XLR into a db Hype 8" powered PA speaker. With both on together it just sounded monster! :)


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  • drwiddlydrwiddly Frets: 724
    edited July 2018
    Using IR's in the gsp is a bit of a minefield. It does truncate the bit size which has an effect on clarity compared to other preamps that don't. I've tried a few IR's in mine but nearly always end up using the stock 'Digitech Alt 4x12' which seems to sound better than anything else for some reason.
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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 799
    I've tried a few more now and some of them certainly do have quite a bit more life to them. Sounds pretty decent even through my cheapo dbHype8 speaker...from memory I think it sounds better than the Helix LT did through the same speaker but maybe my memory is playing tricks. I just remember thinking I didn't really find those sounds useable at the time.

    I'll give it a whirl through the PA at next practice and see how that goes. :)
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 4654
    A "Digital Music Corp" Ground Control midi controller (somthing to do with Voodoo labs I think) has turned up in my local Cash Generator, for £50, which I assume would do the job as controller. Seems to allow 4 switches for presets and 6 to assign to fx which I guess would do the job. But the question is...is it worth cheaping out and getting something that looks a bit grubby (and probably smells of cigarettes if it's from there) or sticking with the universally liked Digitech Control?
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  • sweepysweepy Frets: 2786
    Picking one up tomorrow with the dedicated foot Controller, well I couldn't resist ;)
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  • FX_MunkeeFX_Munkee Frets: 2279
    Another GSP1101 user reporting in.
    Mine's in a mini rack with Laney IRT Studio, perfect studio setup for me.
    @thecolourbox I've tried it with other midi controllers but the Control2 is so much nicer to use with it. I'd keep your eyes peeled for a SH one if I were you.
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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 799
    Woah - just tried a few more Ownhammer IRs through the PA speaker...absolute night and day compared to the stock cabs. Sounds amazing - like a completely different beast! I think I actually prefer the sound to running it into a real cab via a power amp.

    Can't wait to try this thing at volume :)

    One weird thing - I have set the global cab to ON and it shows up in all the presets but it isn't actually using the cab I have specified...when you edit the preset you can see it has reverted to the default cab selection. Any idea what I am doing wrong there?
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 1072
    edited July 2018
    I'm hoping to pick up a bargain one of these on the 2nd hand market if only as a tester to see if I want to splash the big bucks on a Helix or something. £200 ish seems to be the going rate on ebay which kinda feels like a lot to me for 10 year old tech - where are you guys finding your bargains?
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  • SheldersShelders Frets: 9
    TTBZ said:
    I'm hoping to pick up a bargain one of these on the 2nd hand market if only as a tester to see if I want to splash the big bucks on a Helix or something. £200 ish seems to be the going rate on ebay which kinda feels like a lot to me for 10 year old tech - where are you guys finding your bargains?
    This is also relevant to my interests 
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 4654
    Shelders said:
    TTBZ said:
    I'm hoping to pick up a bargain one of these on the 2nd hand market if only as a tester to see if I want to splash the big bucks on a Helix or something. £200 ish seems to be the going rate on ebay which kinda feels like a lot to me for 10 year old tech - where are you guys finding your bargains?
    This is also relevant to my interests 
    I bought mine on Amazon Warehouse for (I think) £135!
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  • FX_MunkeeFX_Munkee Frets: 2279
    I got my unit from ebay a couple of years ago for £160 and I added the Control2 when Thoman were selling them off earlier this year for £130ish I think.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    edited July 2018
    Woah - just tried a few more Ownhammer IRs through the PA speaker...absolute night and day compared to the stock cabs. Sounds amazing - like a completely different beast! I think I actually prefer the sound to running it into a real cab via a power amp.

    Can't wait to try this thing at volume

    One weird thing - I have set the global cab to ON and it shows up in all the presets but it isn't actually using the cab I have specified...when you edit the preset you can see it has reverted to the default cab selection. Any idea what I am doing wrong there?

    Global cab is best used if you are wanting to sound same as your combo or amp/cab so it replaces all cab selections globally in all presests with a single cab file of your choosing.

    Set global cab to off and it will select the individual cab files specified in each preset.

    if you pick a preset with a cab selection that sounds lots different and switch global on and off i am sure you should hear the difference ;) (it doesn't overwrite the preset its a way to make unit override it globally but cabs for preset are still saved to each preset.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    Ownhammer and redwires work well on them.  Remember to select the 44.1/128fs files and not higher (will double check i think, against what people say, you can use 44.1/256fs but it only applies it to a single side iirc left outputs only... But will check and confirm.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    edited July 2018
    Shelders said:
    TTBZ said:
    I'm hoping to pick up a bargain one of these on the 2nd hand market if only as a tester to see if I want to splash the big bucks on a Helix or something. £200 ish seems to be the going rate on ebay which kinda feels like a lot to me for 10 year old tech - where are you guys finding your bargains?
    This is also relevant to my interests 

    £200 is a bargain when you hold it side by side against anything else at same price and also compare them to axe/helix.  With control 2 included I'd say you'll pay £250.  Without 150-200.  Bargains cheaper than that are few and far between.

    try and buy with control 2 as don't often see em for sale s/h seperste from gsp.  Inly one I've seen is on FB group at moment for €100.

    Control 2 is a serious bit of kit that would happily stand up to touring, very heavy and reliable.... Big advantage to a normal midi controller.  Look down and see preset, see what is on and off, see your tuner all without looking back at rack to try and see that info.  Means rack doesn't even have to be visible.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    I got lucky and picked up my 2nd (backup) unit for £50 on gumtree but never seen another at that price.  some of bargains were when they were selling off remaining stock last year.

    I do expect price to come down but don't expect you'll see cheap ones a lot as they do peform at a very high level only missing some of the routing flexibility and sticking of the current crop.  But give away very little in sound.  You want metal put a gsp1101 against axe or helix on 5150 and be shocked.  People who 4 cabled them actually chose model into poweramo over real preamp
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  • gearaddictgearaddict Frets: 799
    mr-mac said:
    One weird thing - I have set the global cab to ON and it shows up in all the presets but it isn't actually using the cab I have specified...when you edit the preset you can see it has reverted to the default cab selection. Any idea what I am doing wrong there?

    Global cab is best used if you are wanting to sound same as your combo or amp/cab so it replaces all cab selections globally in all presests with a single cab file of your choosing.

    Set global cab to off and it will select the individual cab files specified in each preset.

    if you pick a preset with a cab selection that sounds lots different and switch global on and off i am sure you should hear the difference ;) (it doesn't overwrite the preset its a way to make unit override it globally but cabs for preset are still saved to each preset.
    Yeah, the global cab setting doesn't seem to work on mine.
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    As well as turning it on assume you specified a cab?? Try the cab file in a preset maybe objecting to cab (or try and I built one globally)
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  • mr-macmr-mac Frets: 198
    Which output 1/4" or xlr? You can have it set to do one and not other????
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  • sweepysweepy Frets: 2786
    Well, I’ve gone and bought one with the dedicated foot controller, Flightcase and Gig bag whilst on holiday in Wales. Think I’ll be annoying g the neighbours on Monday :) 
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