Going Veggie ?

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Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 15434
I'm giving some serious thought to going veggie - or, in the beginning at least, cutting out as much meat as possible.

Are there any veggies here and can you recommend any recipes / books ?  I'm very wary of giving up and going back to meat because my first attempts taste like extra-bland cardboard.

To make things more difficult, I'm not a great fan of fish or salads.  I've got a few books already - including Hugh Fearnley-Eatsitall's "Veg Everyday" - which, to be honest, leaves me cold.  Nothing grabs me. :-(
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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 10840
    You won't live any longer.

    It will only feel that way.
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  • SnagsSnags Frets: 1400
    Thug Kitchen have done a few books.  Very sweary, but some good recipes.

    Bosh! is quite good too.

    Also, use t'InterwebTubez cos the veggie/vegan thing is massively on trend and there are some really good resources out there.  Mrs Snags does more of that than me, though, I just cook "stuff" with whatever she buys.

    It's worth bearing in mind that some stuff can be a bit of an acquired art/skill/knowledge - e.g. IMO tofu needs to be fried to absolute death, or baked (and ideally pressed beforehand), which transforms it from slimy shite to a perfectly acceptable protein source.

    There's still loads of quick'n'easy things you can do, as well as some that are good for when friends come round and you're worried they think you just live on beans on toast now. Have a good fake spag bol recipie that's really nice, and a cracking mushroom and ale pie one etc.etc.
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 1966
    also, Ottolenghi does lots of fantastic vegetarian recipes

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jerusalem-Yotam-Ottolenghi/dp/0091943744/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1546538020&sr=1-3&keywords=ottolenghi+cookery+books

    His Aubergine-wrapped ricotta gnocchi with sage butter being one of my all-time favorites



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  • wave100wave100 Frets: 146
    I was a veggy for about 20 years when I were a yoof - I'm still happy to have a meat free meal and still don't eat sheep or cows (cos I don't like the taste). 
    There are plenty of veggy meals in the cuisines of the world, Italian and Indian spring to mind. Just remember not to substitute cheese for meat if you're doing it for health reasons.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 14943
    It just sounds like you've got an irrational, ingrained horror of vegetables.
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  • merlinmerlin Frets: 1939
    TheMarlin said:
    also, Ottolenghi does lots of fantastic vegetarian recipes
    Beat me to it. His book "Plenty" should sort you out for the first couple of weeks! 
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  • GrunfeldGrunfeld Frets: 2876
    Emp_Fab said:
    I'm giving some serious thought to going veggie - or, in the beginning at least, cutting out as much meat as possible.

    I didn't totally realise I was going veggie when I started. 
    Just stopped eating one meat thing, then another, and so on.  The whole thing may have taken a year to happen.
    I remember not eating the sausages I was grilling and that's when I sussed that I don't eat meat any more.
    Basically, you don't have to do it with any kind of fanfare and can get in with it at any pace you like.

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  • MrsLostSon and I have somehow ended up being virtually vegetarian... I don't really like vegetables! That said, I haven't had red meat in 9months & only eat chicken/pork once a week or so. 
    I'm surprised by how much better I feel- no longer bloated/sluggish after meals, it's cheaper too. 

    I recommend this book: 
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Part-Time-Vegetarian-Flexible-Recipes-Meat-Free/dp/1848992653
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  • tone1tone1 Frets: 2404
    edited January 3
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... bloody lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all..
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  • VeganicVeganic Frets: 651
    It's hard to say without living with you for a month and seeing what you eat, how much time you have and how interested you are in preparing food rather than eating it.

    I'd start by just googling "Vegan...." where "..." is whatever you fancied for tea.  I would recommend going for vegan as vegetarian leaves too much room for a tonne of cheese on a pizza and twenty slices of cheesecake. You can always reign it in after.

    I prefer substituting nuts rather than quorn or soya chunks.
    Pulses usually take some skill to get right unless it is chickpeas and are more of an alternative than a substitute.

    Now it's pretty mainstream you can be flexible as the vegan and anti-vegan police are not so prevalent. You can see the 'forbidden' stuff as something special to be had occassionally if you go for the expensive stuff with higher-standards of welfare if that's an issue.  

    Get some vegan friends.  Some of them can be pretty good at cooking and love sharing food and tips.

    Don't do it if you aren't enjoying it. We don't need any more miserable bloody vegans.


    Good luck
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 1966
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I disagree.  They're like wet cardboard. Cauldron Foods veggie Cumberlands are my favorite.  I don't eat Quorn, it's bleached mold grown in vast chemical vats.  No thanks.

    I've been a vegetarian for nearly 35 years.  Not got bored of it yet.  Having potato, fennel, and artichoke 'Al Forno' tonight.

    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

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  • VeganicVeganic Frets: 651
    TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I disagree.  They're like wet cardboard. Cauldron Foods veggie Cumberlands are my favorite.  I don't eat Quorn, it's bleached mold grown in vast chemical vats.  No thanks.

    I've been a vegetarian for nearly 35 years.  Not got bored of it yet.  Having potato, fennel, and artichoke 'Al Forno' tonight.

    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    Linda's fingers are not what they once were but work ok in a casserole.
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  • tone1tone1 Frets: 2404
    TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I disagree.  They're like wet cardboard. Cauldron Foods veggie Cumberlands are my favorite.  I don't eat Quorn, it's bleached mold grown in vast chemical vats.  No thanks.

    I've been a vegetarian for nearly 35 years.  Not got bored of it yet.  Having potato, fennel, and artichoke 'Al Forno' tonight.

    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    Brilliant Thanks 
    I will give them a try  :)
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  • thumpingrugthumpingrug Frets: 1533
    Rose Elliot,

    https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Rose-Elliots-New-Complete-Vegetarian-ebook/dp/B006BARW40/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1546547390&sr=8-1&keywords=rose+elliott+vegetarian+cookbook

    I got the first edition of this in the 1980s and recently obtained the new edition as the old one had fallen apart from use.   

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  • GrunfeldGrunfeld Frets: 2876
    edited January 3
    Rose Elliot,
    I got the first edition of this in the 1980s and recently obtained the new edition as the old one had fallen apart from use.   
    That was my first vegetarian cookbook back then too!  Got me started at least.  I like the Thug Kitchen ones. 
    The one I still come back to is Vegan Cooking for One (a) cos I live alone; (b) the book was written when you might have been the only veg*n in the house.  I've literally just now gone and bought it again for the third time because I couldn't find it so must have given it away again!  I've got about 6 meals in there which I really like and know off by heart but there's about 150 in there and every one I've tried has worked and tastes good.  Basically gives you a shopping list of stuff to get each week and that week's worth of meals to use it all up.  Makes the planning super easy.

    I've been thinking about what @Veganic was saying about cheese and I'm ready to let that go again.  I've been eating much more of it because of the need to reduce blood glucose and I did a sort of half-arsed low carb high fat diet.  This does not work if you don't reduce your carbs enough!  Anyway, blood sugars are back in range so time for a rethink about what I'm eating.

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  • revsorgrevsorg Frets: 616
    I went vegan in June 2016 for health reasons and it's transformed my enjoyment of food.  Previously I really was eating myself into an early grave.  It was Michael Gregor who convinced me at the time.  This Christmas we got How Not To Die and have decided to completely conform to it for a few months to see how it goes.

    My wife's been cooking recipes from Bosh for some time - they're great.

    And of course anything by Jack Monroe is cost effective and dead easy to cook.  This evening I cooked her Peach & Chickpea Curry to which I always add half a dozen lumps of frozen Iceland spinach.  Totally easy to cook, delicious, and as I say above - non-deadly.


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  • ReverendReverend Frets: 1979
    The Vivera range is pretty decent. Their kebab stuff great
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  • BellycasterBellycaster Frets: 3219
    I'm not Veggie, but try this.

    Fry Garlic and Green Chillies in Olive Oil

    Cook Linguine or Spaghetti.

    Stir Chilli and Garlic Infused Oil into Pasta

    Add generous amounts of Parmigiano Reggiano (not any old Parmesan), stir into pasta.

    This is gorgeous enough like this but you can add:

    Lentils that have been cooked with Red Chillies and Celery.

    I mean Lentils that still look like little balls when done, not the Mush that Neil from the Young Ones serves up :)

    YMMV as I've got an Italian Chef for a Brother in Law. It was as good as anything I'd ever tasted with meat in it.
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  • thumpingrugthumpingrug Frets: 1533
    I'm not Veggie, but try this.

    Fry Garlic and Green Chillies in Olive Oil

    Cook Linguine or Spaghetti.

    Stir Chilli and Garlic Infused Oil into Pasta

    Add generous amounts of Parmigiano Reggiano (not any old Parmesan), stir into pasta.

    This is gorgeous enough like this but you can add:

    Lentils that have been cooked with Red Chillies and Celery.

    I mean Lentils that still look like little balls when done, not the Mush that Neil from the Young Ones serves up :)

    YMMV as I've got an Italian Chef for a Brother in Law. It was as good as anything I'd ever tasted with meat in it.
    Dont want to piss on your bonfire but adding Parmigiano Reggiano will make this a non veggie meal.  Parmigiano Reggiano is made using calf rennet.

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  • jonnyburgojonnyburgo Frets: 6763
    I made aubergine burgers last night, sliced aubergine breadcrumbed and fried, 2 “burgers” in a chunky bun with grated carrot red onion, cherry Tom and extra hot reggae reggae sauce, home made skin on wedges on the side, well nice!
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 1966
    I make aubergine meatballs (no meat).  With a nice homemade pasta sauce with linguini, it’s food of the gods. 

    Antonio Carluccio once said, if you cook with aubergines, you will never miss meat. He’s right. I always have a few aubergines in the fridge, you can do so much with them. 

    Melanzane alla parmigiana is one of the best plates of food you’ll ever put in your mouth.  I make it non traditionally, with added dabs of ricotta in the layers, and smoked mozzarella.  it’s (even if I say so myself) incredible!

    I let rennet slide, I’m about 60% cheese. 

    I didn’t become a vegetarian because of ‘little fluffy animals’, I just didn’t like meat, and being a vegetarian really pissed my dad off, which was fun.  I just forgot to stop. 

    My brother in law runs a hog roasting business, I help out from time to time. If that hasn’t turned me, not sure what could. 
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 21329
    We went vegetarian when moving to Singapore, partly because of my mum's bowel cancer diagnosis and me having half her genes and partly because we weren't sure about the food quality here (it is mostly fine, although a local restaurant shut 2 months ago because they hospitalised 30 people and killed 1).

    Also not an animal welfare issue for us so after a while we started adding in a small amount of cheese, but much less than what we were having in the UK.

    You don't have to become magically capable in the kitchen to eat vegetarian- a lot of our dishes are simply variations on what we used to have.

    Yesterday we had fruit for breakfast.
    Lunch was a big salad with felafel and hummus.
    Dinner was penne arrabbiata with a small amount of parmesan.

    Breakfast was fruit for Mrs Oct- I had toast.
    Lunch today was a tomato/salad roll + salad.
    Dinner tonight is a lentil/carrot/cauliflower curry with basmati rice.

    We don't do food that is made to look like the meat we no longer eat.
    The point is to eat less processed food, not more.
    I know a lot of vegetarians who are much unhealthier than your typical meat eater- you can be vegan eating Oreo's but are they good for you?

    If 70%ish of your diet is green stuff from the ground then you will be in a good place with it.

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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 2039
    I think you should. I think the misery of it will inspire you to some truly epic rants on here which I await with immense anticipation. 
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  • ewalewal Frets: 1052
    It's pretty easy to be a vegetarian these days - loads of sources for recipes etc, We use the BBC Good Food website quite frequently.

    https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/category/vegetarian


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  • BigLicks67BigLicks67 Frets: 563
    TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I disagree.  They're like wet cardboard. Cauldron Foods veggie Cumberlands are my favorite.  I don't eat Quorn, it's bleached mold grown in vast chemical vats.  No thanks.

    I've been a vegetarian for nearly 35 years.  Not got bored of it yet.  Having potato, fennel, and artichoke 'Al Forno' tonight.

    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    I think Cauldron do some nice Falafels also.
    We stopped eating Quorn when we realised how it was made.
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  • SnapSnap Frets: 2798

    another vote for Thug kitchen. Hairy Biker go Veggie is good as well - plenty of hearty dishes in there.

    cheapest source of inspiration is online - bbc good food and Jamie oliver sites have loads of recipes.

    I'd also put a bit of time into learning how to properly cook veg too. that way you will get the best out of each thing. For example roasted cauliflower is a lot different to steamed.

    things like knowing that peppers and mushrooms both cook in around the same time, and both absorb oil, so don't chuckem in with your onions til your onions are done. All this stuff will come good after a few recipes though.

    My current thing is hasselback potatoes. Getting a bit obsessed tbh

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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1650
    edited January 7
    The Vivera Smoky BBQ Pulled Pork is very good. It's made from jackfruit and tastes like pork and takes minutes to cook. Add some roasted veggies and put in a wrap and it's fabulous!

    I'm trying Vegan & Gluten-Free for a month but think that might change to veggie, which might change to veggie & fish, but I'll keep the GF part as I feel less bloated and have more energy! So far, I'm not missing bread or red meat but I am missing fish, chicken and eggs but I'm not sure if Vegan will suit me.

    Anyone heard about your blood type determining what your diet should be? I've read similar things to this before
    https://www.webmd.com/diet/a-z/blood-type-diet

    BTW, the Linda McCartney Red Onion sausages are really good and IMHO, better than her regular ones. They're also gluten-free.

    EDIT: Fell off the Vegan Cart after 6 days. It didn't suit me but I'm looking at a diet based on my blood group
    (B pos) but I'm trying to push it more towards veg and fish, which I thought might happen and mentioned earlier in my post. Out of everything, I missed eggs soooooooooo much!

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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 945
    Bosh! Has already been recommended, and Veganomicon is good if you want recipes for things like neat replacements such as Seitan.
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 945
    TheMarlin said:
    tone1 said:
    Linda McCartney’s sausages... blood lovely things.... Don’t miss the meat at all.. :)
    I could never go vegan, it's just too difficult unless you REALLY plan your meals.  My daughter is vegan, but I'm just convinced it's an attention seeking 'follow the herd, and fall in line' millennial thing.... 

    Untrue on all counts :-)
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