Private Messages ~ keeping PMs private

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ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1121
edited May 2014 in Guitars £
Are you are inadvertently leaving messages on someone's wall /profile page when you thought you were PM-ing them?

It is the most usual reason for PMs not getting through.

Be *very careful*, this page is open to the public, and also to google's bots (and other bots too), the same as the recent activity page.
I have seen eMail addresses, paypal, phone numbers, geographical addresses and more on here, all open to public view.

Message button for PMs is top right of the wall / profile page.

All too easily done, you're wouldn't be the first, certainly won't be the last.
(unless the modmins change the PM button so it is more obvious)

If you think you may have done this go through and check the recipients profile page and delete to remove them. (*hover over your post & use the X icon that appears top right)    (edited to improve clarity, thanks to an experiment conducted with surfguy to ensure it works)
If someone has left personal information on your page, please PM them and ask them to edit or remove it for safety.

Hope that helps  :)

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  • stonevibestonevibe Frets: 4448
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  • JookyChapJookyChap Frets: 4211
    Out of interest, does anybody use the activity box? Just wondering if it could be used for the Trader feedback bobbins in some way @TTony

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  • JookyChap said:
    Out of interest, does anybody use the activity box? Just wondering if it could be used for the Trader feedback bobbins in some way @TTony
    Thats a real good idea!
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  • stevebrumstevebrum Frets: 5661
    meltedbuzzbox;222106" said:
    JookyChap said:

    Out of interest, does anybody use the activity box? Just wondering if it could be used for the Trader feedback bobbins in some way @TTony










    Thats a real good idea!
    Absolutely. Rather than trawl through a thread you click a profile and get an idea of their trading rep.

    Is there any control though to stop untruths being posted?
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  • JookyChapJookyChap Frets: 4211
    stevebrum said:
    meltedbuzzbox;222106" said:
    JookyChap said:

    Out of interest, does anybody use the activity box? Just wondering if it could be used for the Trader feedback bobbins in some way @TTony










    Thats a real good idea!
    Absolutely. Rather than trawl through a thread you click a profile and get an idea of their trading rep.

    Is there any control though to stop untruths being posted?
    I guess that comes down to the mods if there is a problem, and if it is somebody 'fluffing' a mate's rep. it is no different to the current situation really.

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  • JookyChapJookyChap Frets: 4211
    Sorry @ChrisMusic - didn't mean to derail this.. :)

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  • matt1973matt1973 Frets: 332
    +1 that's a great idea provided the comments can be moderated.
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  • chrispy108chrispy108 Frets: 2334
    Genius idea Jooky.

    If we could agree on a simple format, such as:
    Name bought from/sold me/traded guitar/amp/pedal +1

    Then you get a bit more information than the current thread

    Selling 3 Les Pauls is a bit different to buy 3 packs of strings, yet in the current system both would be +3
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  • JookyChapJookyChap Frets: 4211

    Genius idea Jooky.

    If we could agree on a simple format, such as:
    Name bought from/sold me/traded guitar/amp/pedal +1

    Then you get a bit more information than the current thread

    Selling 3 Les Pauls is a bit different to buy 3 packs of strings, yet in the current system both would be +3
    Good point, be more useful to see the split between buys and sells.

    I've got all the existing numbers up-to-date in a spreadsheet, so could do an initial post on each person's page to show what they are carrying forward too, so at least that history wouldn't be lost.

    @Monquixote @Digitalscream @TTony Chaps - would this be a runner?

    Doesn't seem to need any development other than perhaps changing the Activity title and clearing what is already there?

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  • chrispy108chrispy108 Frets: 2334
    Seems a great plan, I'm happy to do a chunk of initial posting if that'd help?

    Would get rid of the confusion of Activity/PMs too, I've just had a quick look at it appears that all of that should/could have been PMs.
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  • JookyChapJookyChap Frets: 4211
    Seems a great plan, I'm happy to do a chunk of initial posting if that'd help?

    Would get rid of the confusion of Activity/PMs too, I've just had a quick look at it appears that all of that should/could have been PMs.
    It would definitely help, there are shed loads of them :)

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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 19778
    Not ignoring this - just thinking about it.

    :)
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  • surfguy13surfguy13 Frets: 98
    Really good thread and as it happens I made the mistake of posting a message on someone's wall a couple of weeks ago....stupid thing is I know to click the message tab but had a momentary lapse of reason and.........!

    Is there any way of removing a message mistakenly posted on someone's wall? 
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  • JookyChapJookyChap Frets: 4211
    surfguy13 said:
    Really good thread and as it happens I made the mistake of posting a message on someone's wall a couple of weeks ago....stupid thing is I know to click the message tab but had a momentary lapse of reason and.........!

    Is there any way of removing a message mistakenly posted on someone's wall? 
    If you go to the message you should be able to delete it

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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 19778
    JookyChap said:
    surfguy13 said:
    Really good thread and as it happens I made the mistake of posting a message on someone's wall a couple of weeks ago....stupid thing is I know to click the message tab but had a momentary lapse of reason and.........!

    Is there any way of removing a message mistakenly posted on someone's wall? 
    If you go to the message you should be able to delete it
    ... by pressing on the little black X that appears in the top right of the message space when you hover the cursor on the message.
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  • GuitarMonkeyGuitarMonkey Frets: 1875
    How do you delete something that another member has posted? No black cross.
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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1121
    I don't think you can remove another members post / comments, PM and ask them to do it themselves or ask the mods to do it for you.  Hope that helps.

    On the subject of using the profile page for sales feedback posts, it seems to me that it is far too easy to abuse.  I agree it would be less work than the current list compiling, but at least that is done in full public gaze, which makes it far harder to abuse.  Also remember the face palm wars !
    No system is perfect though  (or I would have won the lottery by now  ;)  )
    Oh - do I need to buy a ticket or something  :-S

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  • vizviz Frets: 6688
    @sundial - you've written something on my wall or whatever instead of pming me - feel free to delete it because I don't know how to!
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  • GuitarMonkeyGuitarMonkey Frets: 1875
    I don't think you can remove another members post / comments, 
    Seems like a flaw to me as I think the member should have control of their own wall.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 19778
    I don't think you can remove another members post / comments, 
    Seems like a flaw to me as I think the member should have control of their own wall.
    I've just checked it out.

    It's an "all or nothing" situation - users can either be stopped from deleting comments posted by other peoples on their own walls, or allowed to delete.

    Unfortunately, the allowed-to-delete option means that they can delete any comment from anyone's wall, which isn't quite what we want either.


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  • surfguy13surfguy13 Frets: 98
    Hmmmmm....very confusing!!!!  ;)  I have just been back into the other guy's page where I mistakenly wrote on his wall instead of sending a message but I can't see any means of deleting it.  No black crosses anywhere and no cog icon like you get when you're editing a post.

    Any ideas?
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  • JookyChapJookyChap Frets: 4211
    ChrisMusic said:
    On the subject of using the profile page for sales feedback posts, it seems to me that it is far too easy to abuse.  I agree it would be less work than the current list compiling, but at least that is done in full public gaze, which makes it far harder to abuse.  Also remember the face palm wars !
    In what way could you see it being abused? I can only see two real scenarios

    1. Somebody who isn't happy gives somebody else a slagging off (in which case it is a Mod thing in exactly the same way as anywhere else on the site), or

    2. A friend adds feedback just to make them look better or somebody opens a second account to do the same for themself. Which the current system is open to, of course.

    Other than that, I can't think of anything? :)

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  • surfguy13surfguy13 Frets: 98
    OK, thanks to the genius of @ChrisMusic I have successfully deleted the message I wrote on someone's wall by mistake!!!!  As it happens it was incredibly easy to undo once Chris explained it.  Simply hover the cursor over the message you've put on someone's wall in error, a X will appear in the top right of the post, click the X and a box will appear asking if you are sure you want to go ahead and delete.  Click 'OK' and it's gone. 

    The man deserves a medal......!
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  • NeilNeil Frets: 2839
    The PM method does seem a little illogical to me.

    On other fora there is usually just a PM link at the bottom of the posted box along with your "quote" etc. 
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  • chrispy108chrispy108 Frets: 2334
    I think it makes sense @Neil I'm PMing a user, so I find the users page to send them a message.

    The quote/LOL/Wow!/Wisdom/Facebook/Twitter buttons are about that specific post, so are next to the post.

    Makes sense to me to keep that separate.
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  • NeilNeil Frets: 2839
    Well at least I know how it all works now.  :)
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  • chrispy108chrispy108 Frets: 2334
    JookyChap said:

    Genius idea Jooky.

    If we could agree on a simple format, such as:
    Name bought from/sold me/traded guitar/amp/pedal +1

    Then you get a bit more information than the current thread

    Selling 3 Les Pauls is a bit different to buy 3 packs of strings, yet in the current system both would be +3
    Good point, be more useful to see the split between buys and sells.

    I've got all the existing numbers up-to-date in a spreadsheet, so could do an initial post on each person's page to show what they are carrying forward too, so at least that history wouldn't be lost.

    @Monquixote @Digitalscream @TTony Chaps - would this be a runner?

    Doesn't seem to need any development other than perhaps changing the Activity title and clearing what is already there?
    Is this still happening? Still happy to help update a chunk.
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  • ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1121
    Given one of the other discussions currently pointing out that people, maybe new members, are posting private information on publicly available activity / profile / wall pages, it seems appropriate to bump this again.

    An active discussion here will keep the issue in the public eye for a while again.  It will give people an opportunity to remove any inappropriate posts too.

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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 19778
    We (as in MQ) updated the wall section last night - so it's pretty well signposted now that anything that gets posted on the wall section is open for public viewing.  
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