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CastroCastro Frets: 127
edited April 18 in Amps
Happy Friday to you all

I'd like to get a small amp which offers the classic Vox 'chime'. By small I mean mostly for studio/home use, so preferably low wattage or attenuated.

Obviously I am considering Vox amps but I'd love to know of any other brands that offer a great little EL84 amp that can deliver similar sonic loveliness. 

I like the Morgan AC20 and Divided By 13 JRT 9/15.

Any other recommendations?

Cheers

Castro
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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 1223
    Have a look at the Yerasov GTA 15, usable at home, very low noise, nicely built. 
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  • Sounds obvious but a vox ac10 is a mighty amp for the price. Think they sound better than the 15s too. 
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  • Macca_25387Macca_25387 Frets: 61
    Vox Ac15 hw version would be my pick. I tried the Morgan and still went for the Hw 15. Fair few quid cheaper aswell. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 42177
    Vox AC10 or AC15. If you want a Vox sound why get something different?

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • LebarqueLebarque Frets: 1335
    Plenty of booteek options too: Matchless, Bad Cat, Audio Kitchen, Carr
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 12342
    Bad cat - anything with an EF86 channel.
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  • JeremiahJeremiah Frets: 324
    ICBM said:
    Vox AC10 or AC15. If you want a Vox sound why get something different?
    I would be put off a lot of Vox amps by the weight - the AC10 is not too bad at 12kg, but the AC15 is 22kg which seems like a lot. Even the head weighs more than some 1x12 combos.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 42177
    Jeremiah said:

    I would be put off a lot of Vox amps by the weight - the AC10 is not too bad at 12kg, but the AC15 is 22kg which seems like a lot. Even the head weighs more than some 1x12 combos.
    That's because they have good solid cabinets and decent-sized transformers.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • CastroCastro Frets: 127
    I'm liking the look and weight of the AC10C1.
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  • CastroCastro Frets: 127
    And the price!
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  • AC10s really are great and underrated. Not loud enough to compete with a loud band in a loud rehearsal I would say, but superb at home and certainly for studio recording which is where I’ve encountered them. Perfectly rounded and can be cranked perfectly at a volume that doesn’t sound like it’s making the amp ill.  The audible equivalent of a nice warming snifter of single malt! 

    Ive always found the 15s to be annoyingly stuck in between. Loud enough but not in a way that spreads nicely like a 30. And the c2 version is pushing ac30 prices. 


    Im on the lookout at something this size and power myself for home and I’m talking it back to the top of my list as we speak. 





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  • kswilson89kswilson89 Frets: 125
    The Vox AC15HW1X is nothing short of outstanding, one of the best amps I've ever played. But it may be a bit loud for home use, what about the 4 watt version?
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  • CastroCastro Frets: 127
    Just watching AC4 demos as we speak.
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  • teradaterada Frets: 4529
    Don’t underestimate how loud 4 tube watts can be. Got rid of my ac4tv for exactly that reason
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 42177
    I never liked the AC4TV, the more recent AC4C1 is much better.

    You won’t be able to crank any of them up at normal home volume though.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • CHrisP86CHrisP86 Frets: 193
    MJW Roadstar 18.

    Best chime I’ve ever had from an amp. 
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 6150
    best value is the v1 HW white AC15, bloody amazing
    You need the celestion blue, and the EF86
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 5247
    the AC4 is awful in my opinion
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1774
    edited April 13
    A Divided here for you . You know what they can do and you have the added bonus of 6V6. 
    This amp works for home or gigs.

     http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/116794/divided-by-13-jrt-9-15-head-choice-of-2-heads-purple-available-only#latest

     www.cairoeast.co.uk - Madness Tribute band (Bass Player) and guitarist elsewhere
    Feedback - http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/57885/
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 3706
    ICBM said:
    I never liked the AC4TV, the more recent AC4C1 is much better.

    You won’t be able to crank any of them up at normal home volume though.
    Yeah I was trying an AC4 in a shop and it needs to be louder than you can play in a shop to sound any good, let alone how loud I can play at home!
    Warning: this post may contain overtly affectionate references to the irreplaceable Mary Spender, and if you are reading this, Hi Mary!
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  • FuengiFuengi Frets: 1223
    I owned an AC4 and it wasn't good. I think the hand wired ones are a lot better but they are expensive. 
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  • thermionicthermionic Frets: 5694
    There are two types of AC4 iirc, one with vol, tone and gain, and one with top boost type bass and treble controls. I’m guessing that the top boost gets closer to the typical Vox sound.
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 3706
    For home use, perhaps the well regarded models in the Vox Handbag?
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 42177
    I owned two original 1960s AC4s - which are hand wired and have EF86s - and they weren’t good either! They look pretty, that’s about it... but the modern ones are different circuits.

    The AC4TV is the one with volume, tone and a built-in attenuator - it sounds muddy and un-Vox-like. Not quite as bad with very bright single coils, but really not good. The AC4C1 has the Top Boost controls and master volume - much better. It also now comes in a 12” speaker version, but I haven’t seen one and I don’t know if the cabinet is deep enough to take a Blue.

    The AC10 also unfortunately can’t take an Alnico speaker, there isn’t enough clearance between the magnet and the power valves.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • DominicDominic Frets: 5247
    pm sent
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  • wwwwww Frets: 45
    Laney L5T-112? I recently bought one of the older models (pre-digital reverb) and it's phenomenal. I think I paid just over £300 too
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  • StuckfastStuckfast Frets: 608
    Quite a few bands I've recorded have brought modern AC15s along and I have never liked them anything like as much as an AC30, they've mostly sounded a bit muddy and uninteresting. I always wonder if some of the AC30 'chime' comes from having two speakers.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 42177
    I had an AC15TBX and I never really liked it either. Not at all like an AC30.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 3917
    Ef86 is overrated IMO. I never gor it to break up musically in my matchless build. Was always too raspy until I replaced it with a 12ax7.
     
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  • CirrusCirrus Frets: 4571
    Stuckfast said:
    Quite a few bands I've recorded have brought modern AC15s along and I have never liked them anything like as much as an AC30, they've mostly sounded a bit muddy and uninteresting. I always wonder if some of the AC30 'chime' comes from having two speakers.
    Most of the circuit is the same. I mean, I agree with you totally, but it does mean the differences can be narrowed down - Parallel EL84s on each side of the (bigger) output transformer? Physical cab size meaning different resonant frequency/ midrange phasing from the sound coming out the open back? Two speakers rather than one? All of the above?
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