Metal guys with single channel amps

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EddieVNEddieVN Frets: 1

Guys like Zakk Wylde & Kerry King who use a single channel head live – what do they do for a clean sound? Do they have another rig and an AB box? I was watching a youtube video of Kerry King taking you through his live rig and he’s running three of his signature heads (which is single channel) with slightly different EQs for his distorted sound but didn’t mention his clean sound… anyone know what he does?

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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 3775
    edited June 2019
    Apparently for a clean tone for Kerry King  it's DI guitar direct to FOH 

    Does Zakk ever use one?
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  • John_A said:
    Apparently for a clean tone for Kerry King  it's DI guitar direct to FOH 

    Does Zakk ever use one?

    Yes - I'd imagine it's probably DI... May be wrong though. 
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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 23923
    John_A said:
    Apparently for a clean tone for Kerry King  it's DI guitar direct to FOH 

    Does Zakk ever use one?
    ZW turns off the overdrive pedal and then turns down his guitar volume.
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  • musteatbrainmusteatbrain Frets: 871
    Yep as above

    About 4:30 on this for Zakk on his clean tone


    https://youtu.be/2Jd0zypZlXY

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  • pintspillerpintspiller Frets: 994
    Maybe they use a mixture of amps and A/B between them
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  • ReverendReverend Frets: 4974
    Clean tone???


    I'm lost.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 71955
    Almost all pro guitarists use two different amps, or an amp and a DI box. This is so that there can be two completely separate mics/feeds to the desk so each can be EQ'd and level-adjusted separately, so the soundman doesn't have to keep adjusting things every time the player changes sound. Even the ones who use channel-switching amps will have two of them, one set to each sound and selected externally.

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  • steven70steven70 Frets: 1262
    edited September 2023
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  • ReverendReverend Frets: 4974
    steven70 said:
    Can tell you one thing- whatever he does, most of those amps on stage are dummies. Several years ago we ended up right at the bottom of the bill at a heavy rock thing he was headlining and I tried to use one of his "Marshall stacks"  
    Yep. All the heads on stage are dummies with a powered up light and a short lead plugged in. two heads and two cabs was his actually set up with the heads set up in the guitar world behind. 

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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 3775
    John_A said:
    Apparently for a clean tone for Kerry King  it's DI guitar direct to FOH 

    Does Zakk ever use one?
    ZW turns off the overdrive pedal and then turns down his guitar volume.
    I was trying to be funny ;)
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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 23923
    John_A said:
    John_A said:
    Apparently for a clean tone for Kerry King  it's DI guitar direct to FOH 

    Does Zakk ever use one?
    ZW turns off the overdrive pedal and then turns down his guitar volume.
    I was trying to be funny ;)
    I thought you were asking if ZW used a DI!
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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 3775
    John_A said:
    John_A said:
    Apparently for a clean tone for Kerry King  it's DI guitar direct to FOH 

    Does Zakk ever use one?
    ZW turns off the overdrive pedal and then turns down his guitar volume.
    I was trying to be funny ;)
    I thought you were asking if ZW used a DI!
    No asking if he ever used a clean sound (in a tongue in cheek way) :)
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 2873
    Metal with clean guitar is the wrong kind of metal.
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  • Modulus_AmpsModulus_Amps Frets: 2569
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    Reverend said:
    steven70 said:
    Can tell you one thing- whatever he does, most of those amps on stage are dummies. Several years ago we ended up right at the bottom of the bill at a heavy rock thing he was headlining and I tried to use one of his "Marshall stacks"  
    Yep. All the heads on stage are dummies with a powered up light and a short lead plugged in. two heads and two cabs was his actually set up with the heads set up in the guitar world behind. 

    I have made a few dummy head cabs, from far you would not know that they are not real.
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  • Modulus_AmpsModulus_Amps Frets: 2569
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    ICBM said:
    Almost all pro guitarists use two different amps, or an amp and a DI box. This is so that there can be two completely separate mics/feeds to the desk so each can be EQ'd and level-adjusted separately, so the soundman doesn't have to keep adjusting things every time the player changes sound. Even the ones who use channel-switching amps will have two of them, one set to each sound and selected externally.
    Interesting, I never thought about this much, but that makes perfect sense
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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 23923
    ICBM said:
    Almost all pro guitarists use two different amps, or an amp and a DI box. This is so that there can be two completely separate mics/feeds to the desk so each can be EQ'd and level-adjusted separately, so the soundman doesn't have to keep adjusting things every time the player changes sound. Even the ones who use channel-switching amps will have two of them, one set to each sound and selected externally.
    Metallica are using Axe-FX... and even then they have 1 unit for for clean and another for dirt, and another for solos etc etc

    Their Rig Rundown goes through it - removes any chance of patch change delay
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  • MonstronautMonstronaut Frets: 193
    Kerry King's clean sound is never actually clean. There's still a fair amount of hair. I'd imagine he just turns the volume on his guitar down. That's what I do when I want a clean sound on my 2203.
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  • RobDaviesRobDavies Frets: 3062
    I’m trying to think of a clean part on the first five Slayer albums..... the intro to Spill The Blood is all I can come up with, and I think that was Jeff?
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  • Kerry uses a chorus pedal into a D.I for his clean tone. He does the clean intros for Seasons, spill the blood and 213
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