Stranger things S3 - SPOILER THREAD

TimmyO

It's impossible to discuss in the other one which has been declared spoiler free (why go in an internet thread about something and expect it to be spoiler free? pfft - oh well) 

So - spoilers ahoy... 

TimmyO

TimmyO

Right then - Joyce - fucking black widow or what? 

TimmyO

or if the fan theories are correct "...or is she...?" 

TimmyO

Also obviously the whole thing is believable and scientifically fine EXCEPT both parties in a radio connection can't transmit at once. Sorry Dusty-bun and Suzie-poo 

stickyfiddle

Most importantly, who is “The American”?? 

Hopper, or someone else?? I fully assume S4 will be “The Search for Hop”. It’s better be!!

TimmyO

stickyfiddle said:

Most importantly, who is “The American”?? 

Hopper, or someone else?? I fully assume S4 will be “The Search for Hop”. It’s better be!!

Initially I missed the post credits scene - and at that time I said "I like that there was no 'monster noise' at the end - particularly as Hops letter to El said "we want things to last forever but they change" and I thought that was a cool way to end.

But then the post credits scene, and the Twitter clue that pointed people to a "voicemail" to Joyce (Google) all imply that yes Hop is alive. And what else could unite our plucky clan? 

jonnyburgo

He must be alive but If I  didn't like the fact that it was telegraphed via the prison scene. If Indeed it was... But we didn't see him get blown to bits and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have shyed away from showing their he had been

TimmyO

watch this to the end 

stickyfiddle

Of course there's also a theory that the current timing of each seasons, combined with the introduction of Russians making things go 'splode in S3, combined with the fact the writers have already said they want to do 5 seasons and no more may mean we end up in Chernobyl in 1986 for Season 4 or 5... 

TimmyO

stickyfiddle said:

Of course there's also a theory that the current timing of each seasons, combined with the introduction of Russians making things go 'splode in S3, combined with the fact the writers have already said they want to do 5 seasons and no more may mean we end up in Chernobyl in 1986 for Season 4 or 5... 

haha - that would either be awesome or awful 

stickyfiddle

TimmyO said:

stickyfiddle said:

Of course there's also a theory that the current timing of each seasons, combined with the introduction of Russians making things go 'splode in S3, combined with the fact the writers have already said they want to do 5 seasons and no more may mean we end up in Chernobyl in 1986 for Season 4 or 5... 

haha - that would either be awesome or awful 

If it were any other show I'd assume awful, but I honestly think this is the best thing on TV so have complete faith  

TimmyO

the small-town-america vibe is central to the whole thing though - I'm not sure 

stickyfiddle

TimmyO said:

the small-town-america vibe is central to the whole thing though - I'm not sure 

I reckon they could keep that via some sort of upside-down-portal shenanigans. Half the gang in Hawkins, the other half trapped in Ukraine by mistake...?

Maybe using a REALLY BIG ham radio to communicate There's always the Duga 3 array just outside Pripyat... 

rossyamaha

Maybe he got sent to the other side in a plasma ray gun explosion created wormhole thing. The gap didn’t fully close till the cavalry arrived. 

TimmyO

or he could have deliberately jumped through 

Either way, it puts him in the upside down, not in the USSR. So the American could still be someone else

colourofsound

TimmyO said:

or he could have deliberately jumped through 

Either way, it puts him in the upside down, not in the USSR. So the American could still be someone else

This is the popular opinion, people seem to think he jumped through but that also he is the American.

But given that the Upside Down is a facsimile of the, errr, Right Way Up, it would imply that the Russians are in the Upside Down, have control of/have avoided the Mind Flayer, and that they have travelled from their portal in Russia to the portal they were making in the US, captured Hopper and then returned to their portal in Russia to incarcerate him.

Seems like a stretch?

That they have or have had a working portal is indisputable given the presence of a Demogorgan in captivity; however its never been clear to me if the Demogorgans are part of the Mind Flayer hive-mind (and thusly need an open portal to survive in the Right Way Up) or whether they're independent, and the Russians caught one before their failed portal closed.

Puzzling!

Another opinion online is that The American is Brennan (Papa - Eleven's 'father') but this seems unlikely to me.

The absence of Eleven's 'sister' from series 2 is very significant to me - I'd wager she was the American...

SouthpawMark

colourofsound said:

TimmyO said:

or he could have deliberately jumped through 

Either way, it puts him in the upside down, not in the USSR. So the American could still be someone else

This is the popular opinion, people seem to think he jumped through but that also he is the American.

But given that the Upside Down is a facsimile of the, errr, Right Way Up, it would imply that the Russians are in the Upside Down, have control of/have avoided the Mind Flayer, and that they have travelled from their portal in Russia to the portal they were making in the US, captured Hopper and then returned to their portal in Russia to incarcerate him.

Seems like a stretch?

That they have or have had a working portal is indisputable given the presence of a Demogorgan in captivity; however its never been clear to me if the Demogorgans are part of the Mind Flayer hive-mind (and thusly need an open portal to survive in the Right Way Up) or whether they're independent, and the Russians caught one before their failed portal closed.

Puzzling!

Another opinion online is that The American is Brennan (Papa - Eleven's 'father') but this seems unlikely to me.

The absence of Eleven's 'sister' from series 2 is very significant to me - I'd wager she was the American...

I think Eleven’s sister was missing from season 3 because the episode she was in during season 2 was an absolute disaster. 

colourofsound

^ That is a fair point

menamestom

stickyfiddle said:

TimmyO said:

the small-town-america vibe is central to the whole thing though - I'm not sure 

I reckon they could keep that via some sort of upside-down-portal shenanigans. Half the gang in Hawkins, the other half trapped in Ukraine by mistake...?

Maybe using a REALLY BIG ham radio to communicate There's always the Duga 3 array just outside Pripyat... 

I like it - UVB-76 could be written in to that story also.