Has anyone here taken the Police to court? (Updated Thread)

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BeyondSanctorumBeyondSanctorum Frets: 16
edited August 1 in Off Topic
My house was recently burgled and we were quickly able to establish who had stolen the items. He was duly let go by the police with a slapped wrist despite having multiple charges already on his record for stealing, driving offences and drug offences but I digress.

All the items were recovered, amongst the items stolen were 2 Swords,(a Katana and Wakizashi) and the police have since returned all items but 1 of the swords. When the officer brought the items round he apologised as he had forgot one of the swords and said we would have it by the end of the week.

A week went by and we didn't have the item back so I called his direct number multiple times and also emailed him and he is not responding to any of my contact. After this I called non-emergency number and they advised me he is not dealing with this and passed me the name of one his colleagues.

I then called her and she said they didn't have the sword anymore to which I told her they definitely did. She gave me her details and told me she would look into it. Again I gave her a full week and she hasn't contacted me so I have emailed her multiple times to no response. 

As you can imagine I am getting really pissed off with them and want to make a complaint. I sent an email to a complaints email address I found for my local constabulary and they have responded saying I have no grounds for complaint despite them losing my valuable item.

I am desperate to get the sword back as the swords were bought by my Grandfather in 1979 (and brought back in hand luggage, how times have changed) and gifted to me on my 18th Birthday.

If anyone has any advice on how to proceed I would be grateful.

Thanks, 
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  • ColsCols Frets: 1025
    Sorry to hear.  Try this:

    https://policeconduct.gov.uk/
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  • WoodandwiresWoodandwires Frets: 77
    Direct to the police and crime commissioner or chief inspector by registered mail. Contact your local press and/or MP
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  • fastonebazfastonebaz Frets: 946
    Get back in touch with thr burglar,  he'll be able to sort you out. 
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  • tekbowtekbow Frets: 559
    Yeah, they dont want to give that back to you. I've seen them do this before. They'll try and run you around until you give up. Don't.

    Cops man.. criminals get let off but the victim gets treated like one.
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 14212
    That's a bit rubbish. Surely one of the cops didn't nick it!?!?
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  • BudgieBudgie Frets: 1096
    edited July 16
    There's a guy on Youtube called Crimebodge who offers advice. I've no idea if this is his sort of thing but could be worth a try.

    *edit -  he has a website too.... https://crimebodge.com/
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 14744
    Anyone who's been busted for weed is familiar with this. 

    They knew I wasn't going to leap to my feet in court and shout "Hang on, there was way more than that!"

    Coppers Tax, that's all it is. 
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 17283
    axisus said:
    That's a bit rubbish. Surely one of the cops didn't nick it!?!?
    No, that would be unthinkable.
    Cops and crims, often both sides of the same coin.
    A lot of cops think they're above the law.
    I fear the OP has got a huge mountain to climb if he wants his stuff back.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 43350
    BeyondSanctorum said:

    I then called her and she said they didn't have the sword anymore to which I told her they definitely did.
    As p90fool says, I'm sure *they* don't have it any more. But one of them does, unless he/she has sold it already...

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • Revolting1Revolting1 Frets: 154
    Stop  the emails and put it all in writing- the superintendant or chief super may work for starters.
    When logic and proportion
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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 11668
    Sue them for it.

    You are suing to get something back rather than money so you can't use the online money claims service. You'll have to do it properly.

    But first - write to them in the old fashioned way and inform them you will be suing them. It's called a Letter before Action.

    Then if they don't reply - get the Claim Form from the court service website, fill it in, and sue.

    Hello darkness my old friend.


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  • BeardyAndyBeardyAndy Frets: 336
    I've heard Twitter seems to get things moving, no one like their dirty laundry being aired in public!
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  • proggyproggy Frets: 2856

    I wrote to: CST Directorate of Professional Standards

                    Empress State Building,

                    22nd floor, Lille Road,

                     London SW6 1TR.

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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 12752
    Send a message in a bottle? 

    (sorry..)
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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 1902
    Hi @BeyondSanctorum ;
    Sorry to hear about your situation, hope you get a positive result.
    Not being a smartarse, but I noticed that your FB location has you in 
    Beijing?
    If this is the case, it would considerably affect the legal advice being offered here (mainly UK).
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  • RaymondLinRaymondLin Frets: 4939
    Daily Mail obviously, they love this stuff. 
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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 6829
    if you are of a certain faith/sexual proclivity or have been culturally abused you need to focus on this immediately.
    <Vintage BOSS Upgrades>
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  • beed84beed84 Frets: 1536
    Tell them you’ve told your Samurai cousin about the situation and that he isn’t too happy about it.
    "Love only what falls your way and is fated for you. What could suit you more than that?" – Marcus Aurelius
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  • munckeemunckee Frets: 4693
    Dirty protest.
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  • ronnybronnyb Frets: 887
    I sympathise with your situation and i may be wrong but aren't some of these things which are classed as dangerous weapons actually banned from possession in private as well as a public place. The legislation is confusing but it mentions swords with a blade which exceeds 50cm and is under 100 years old. There is a new Offensive Weapons Act which received the Royal assent in May 2019. Just wondering if that is the reason they are not returning one though they certainly should be upfront about it. 
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 14744
    Just shows, the answer to every thread is not always "Katana". 

    I have no experience of the Beijing police force, the nearest I ever got was having to bribe cops in India.
    :)
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  • LuttiSLuttiS Frets: 1853
    p90fool said:
    Just shows, the answer to every thread is not always "Katana". 

    I have no experience of the Beijing police force, the nearest I ever got was having to bribe cops in India.
    :)
    I have a friend living in Vietnam.. he has to drop off a bottle of whisky with his local police chief every month.. :) 
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  • jonnyburgojonnyburgo Frets: 7381
    They probably ruined it during an ad hoc game of Fruit Ninja down at the station
    "OUR TOSSPOT"
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 14744
    LuttiS said:
    p90fool said:
    Just shows, the answer to every thread is not always "Katana". 

    I have no experience of the Beijing police force, the nearest I ever got was having to bribe cops in India.
    :)
    I have a friend living in Vietnam.. he has to drop off a bottle of whisky with his local police chief every month.. :) 
    See, that's how it should work here. 
    They could link it to your file at the DVLA to see if you were up to date. 
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 1051
    ronnyb said:
    I sympathise with your situation and i may be wrong but aren't some of these things which are classed as dangerous weapons actually banned from possession in private as well as a public place. The legislation is confusing but it mentions swords with a blade which exceeds 50cm and is under 100 years old. There is a new Offensive Weapons Act which received the Royal assent in May 2019. Just wondering if that is the reason they are not returning one though they certainly should be upfront about it. 
    Not quite. "Samurai swords", specifically curved katana style weapons, can no longer be bought, sold or imported in the UK without valid reason (e.g. martial arts club membership holders), but private possession is not illegal.
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  • jellyrolljellyroll Frets: 2561
    Yawn. Another “Chinese policeman steals ancient sword” thread :(
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  • Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I didn't realise I had my location set to Beijing. I live in South West England. 

    I think I might try twitter as it worked very effectively against HSBC when they were messing me about.

    I'll also try letters to all the places that have been mentioned. 


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  • jdgmjdgm Frets: 409
    Put it in writing to the Chief Constable of your area and copy the letter to your MP.
    That will get some response.
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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 1902
    Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I didn't realise I had my location set to Beijing. I live in South West England. 

    I think I might try twitter as it worked very effectively against HSBC when they were messing me about.

    I'll also try letters to all the places that have been mentioned. 


    Ah, so. Looks like all the advice here will actually be useful to you  :)
    Local radio might be interested, or even "You & Yours' on Radio 4.
     Worth a thought as the media loves unusual stories like this.
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  • SnagsSnags Frets: 1749
    This happened to my dad years ago, with a stolen motorbike. He just contacted the chief constable and said if it wasn't sorted pronto he'd be in touch with the local and national press and his MP by X time.

    Cue a meat wagon screaming to a halt outside our house and a bunch of coppers hurriedly getting the bike out.
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