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FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 799
edited July 19 in Off Topic
No, not a thread about getting older, but one about a stray Bengal cat in my neighbourhood... any helpful advice is welcome!

We have three cats that keep getting attacked by a Bengal-like male cat. It looks very worse for wear, and is unneutered. We've posted on a local lost pets page on Facebook, and other people have the same issue with it as well (i.e. attacking their cats, getting in their house, spraying everywhere etc.).

A couple of people claim it's theirs, and despite everyone telling them for 4 months the location of where it's been spotted (constantly), they have ignored it and claim they are too busy to come and check. They then claimed their neighbour stole it. Later, they then claimed they've moved, and not sure if they're allowed a cat.

I'm obviously very dubious that these people would look after it if it was returned to them - the fact they have told 3 different stories, the cat looks rough and is not neutered, and we have all told them where it is and they cannot be arsed to collect it - would all tell me they are not responsible cat owners.

So, I've purchased a cat trap to try and catch it - it won't let anyone near it. I've spoken to the vets who have said to speak to cat rescue centres and take it there.... but all the rescue centres have said take it to a vets....!

As mean as it might be, I really do not want him going back to the people who claim he's theirs - if he is - even if his microchip states they are the owners; they seem completley irresponsible, and I have no doubt he won't be neutered and will be back terrorising our cats in no time.

Anyone have any advice? I'm half tempted to take it to a town 20 miles away and release it into a field if nowhere takes him in (although that seems rather unfair on the cat).
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  • I think the Croydon Cat Killer has gone freelance recently. Maybe give him a call?
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  • VimFuegoVimFuego Frets: 7616
    yup, if you catch him just drive him out for a while and let him go. We lost one of ours a year ago when she got attacked by a local tom cat, so fuck anyone else's feelings, if they're cat is the problem, there's nothing wrong with protecting yours. 

    I'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me.

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 39617
    If you can catch it, I would take it to a rescue centre - just tell them it was feral and you don't want it. If you go to a vet they'll want to give it back to you, probably with a bill.

    When I was a kid, growing up in the country, there was a feral tom cat which terrorised all the local domestics - it was a really savage thing, in awful condition and probably would have been dangerous if handled... no-one wanted to deal with it, so my dad eventually shot it (shotgun). I love cats but I honestly think it was the best thing to do.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 799
    edited July 19
    VimFuego said:
    yup, if you catch him just drive him out for a while and let him go. We lost one of ours a year ago when she got attacked by a local tom cat, so fuck anyone else's feelings, if they're cat is the problem, there's nothing wrong with protecting yours. 
    Cheers - just seems a shame that it has to suffer due to the f*cking 'owners'.

    ICBM said:
    If you can catch it, I would take it to a rescue centre - just tell them it was feral and you don't want it. If you go to a vet they'll want to give it back to you, probably with a bill.

    When I was a kid, growing up in the country, there was a feral tom cat which terrorised all the local domestics - it was a really savage thing, in awful condition and probably would have been dangerous if handled... no-one wanted to deal with it, so my dad eventually shot it (shotgun). I love cats but I honestly think it was the best thing to do.
    That's the other thing if we released it somewhere random - it would still terrorise the local cats there. Wouldn't be our issue anymore, but not exactly morally right...!
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  • VimFuegoVimFuego Frets: 7616
    oddly enough, for about a year and a half we've been feeding a whole feral tom and while he's often showing scars from his wars, he's gentle as anything with ours. He was actually quite attached to the one we lost, would curl up and sleep with her. If he ever hangs around long enough we think we'll get him chopped, his wanderings are not doing him any favours. 

    I'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me.

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  • shrinkwrapshrinkwrap Frets: 200
    Are you near Bristol? Take him to that new wolf and bear park. He'll probably hold his own.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 15870
    Aren't there any restaurants in your neighbourhood?
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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 951
    Sassafras said:
    Aren't there any restaurants in your neighbourhood?
    You want to take the cat to a restaurant? 
    Presumably an Indian?
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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 951
    I'm with @ICBM .
    If you can catch it, take it to a rescue/rehoming centre. If it's un-neutered, it almost certainly won't be chipped.
    It's not the cat's fault, although it sounds like a really bad situation for all concerned.
    Pity about this as Bengals are stunning beasts.
    Bad people making bad pets again  :p

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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 799
    I'm with @ICBM .
    If you can catch it, take it to a rescue/rehoming centre. If it's un-neutered, it almost certainly won't be chipped.
    It's not the cat's fault, although it sounds like a really bad situation for all concerned.
    Pity about this as Bengals are stunning beasts.
    Bad people making bad pets again  :p

    Yeah, I can see that he used to be a looker - but due to his lack of care, he's looking bloody awful. Think he has some eye infections as well, as they don't look right. He's a weird colouring as well - not the typical 'leopard' markings, but more like 'snow leopard' colouring.
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  • TonyRTonyR Frets: 768
    Sounds like a "snow-spotted" Bengal - we have (a female) one - Lotus (named after the flower? Nope the car! Bloomin' breeders!).

    Here she is:

     

    People see Bengal cats and their markings, thinking how lovely they look but the thing to understand about Bengals is they are NOT like ordinary domesticated cats. They are very characterful but only a few steps away from a wild cat.

    They don't like other cats generally and male ones can be an extreme handful. If they are not treated right they can get out of hand very quickly, becoming extremely difficult to control. Plus male Bengals are generally big, strong, muscular cats.

    That said Lotus is quite small a very placid cat with a very good nature - she's a bit odd in that she doesn't chase birds in the garden, frogs or toads are more her line!

    Maybe his owners bought him to use as a "stud" (to try to make money from) but have not been able to control him, so he's now got out of hand - very irresponsible not having him neutered.  
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  • LuttiSLuttiS Frets: 1708
    I have a Bengal cross with a maine coon.. he is like a clumsy psycho ninja jungle rug. 
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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 951
    LuttiS said:
    I have a Bengal cross with a maine coon.. he is like a clumsy psycho ninja jungle rug. 
    I require photo's  ;)
    Despite my FB name sounding cat related, it really isn't at all B)  I do however love cats, despite being violently allergic to them. Go figure Darwin...
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  • LuttiSLuttiS Frets: 1708
    LuttiS said:
    I have a Bengal cross with a maine coon.. he is like a clumsy psycho ninja jungle rug. 
    I require photo's  ;)
    Despite my FB name sounding cat related, it really isn't at all B)  I do however love cats, despite being violently allergic to them. Go figure Darwin...

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  • historyisjunkhistoryisjunk Frets: 191
    Good on you for going to the trouble & expense of getting a trap.
    As others said best choice is a rescue centre, vets don't really have facilities to deal with these situations & sorry to say some of them don't really seem to care much about animals. If you take him to a rescue place rather than phoning they might be more helpful. Probably a good idea to cover the boot of your car with bin liners or something as there's a good chance he'll piss out of the cage probably through terror. Alternatively the RSPCA might come & get him if you can catch him.
    Original "owners" should be out of the picture here, they've done nothing & clearly don't care. Even if they do live somewhere they can't have cats doesn't mean they can abandon him like this. 
    Hope you get this fixed for everyone's sake.
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 799
    Cage is arriving today..... And I had to fish Dave (one of our cats) out the tree again at 1am. This cat is a huge pain in the arse. 

    Thinking of calling the RSPCA and explaining the situation - one rescue told us it has owners, I explained the situation, but they didn't care. Wondering if we state to the RSPCA that we're concerned about the cat's welfare if they'd do something.

    Failing that - he'll be taken 20 miles away and released. Not ideal, but if nobody can take him in, I need to ensure our cats are safe. 

    Bloody people.
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 3475
    LuttiS said:
    LuttiS said:
    I have a Bengal cross with a maine coon.. he is like a clumsy psycho ninja jungle rug. 
    I require photo's  ;)
    Despite my FB name sounding cat related, it really isn't at all B)  I do however love cats, despite being violently allergic to them. Go figure Darwin...

    @Luttis Best. Cat Picture. Ever.
    Warning: this post may contain overtly affectionate references to the irreplaceable Mary Spender, and if you are reading this, Hi Mary!
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 39617
    FarleyUK said:

    Thinking of calling the RSPCA and explaining the situation - one rescue told us it has owners, I explained the situation, but they didn't care. Wondering if we state to the RSPCA that we're concerned about the cat's welfare if they'd do something.

    Failing that - he'll be taken 20 miles away and released. Not ideal, but if nobody can take him in, I need to ensure our cats are safe.
    Take him to a different cat rescue if necessary, and refuse to take him away again. Don’t just abandon him somewhere else.

    I’m aware of the financial pressure cat rescue centres are under - our cat and the previous one came from there and we’re regular donors. But this is what they’re for.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 951
    @LuttiS  Gorgeous  <3  Ta.
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 799
    Just spoke to the RSPCA, and they were pretty useless. Explained the situation, and they were only interested as I said he 'might' have infected eyes. Gave me an incident number to use if I can take him to vets so his eyes can be checked.... but then he'd be back to the wankers that (probably) own him. I explained I was concerned about his welfare, but they didn't give a toss.

    Also been speaking with a couple of local people who have had issues with him as well - one is in agreement about not giving him to the people who claim he's theirs; the other has a microchip reader and she is happy to come and scan him to see if he's chipped.

    Cage is on the way, so will try and trap the fecker later....
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 1664
    Cats are nasty, vicious, conniving critters.
    Every time you see the unwelcome one, chase it away.
    You've got to think of something that will help persuade it that yours is not a place it wants to be.
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  • historyisjunkhistoryisjunk Frets: 191
    That's a pathetic response from the RSPCA they are supposed to rescue animals from cruel or neglectful owners, clearly these are & you're offering to do part of it for them. Same goes for the rescue place.- owners said "they are too busy to come and check", there it is there, owners can't be arsed, or maybe just want rid because he too much of a handful.

    Not sure where you are, but if you contact these people maybe they could direct you to someone a bit more helpful-

    Alternatively, & more likely to have somewhere local- https://www.cats.org.uk/
    Hope it's not them that have refused to help so far.

    Driving him away & releasing him somewhere doesn't really fix it for him, though I can understand it's totally unfair on you & your neighbour's cats.

    Best of luck.

    Oh, & @LuttiS ; great photo. The people on cat forums never seem to have pictures of good guitars.
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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 951
    prowla said:
    Cats are nasty, vicious, conniving critters.
    Every time you see the unwelcome one, chase it away.
    You've got to think of something that will help persuade it that yours is not a place it wants to be.
    Every time you see the unwelcome one, chase it away, yeah, that will really work.
    My neighbour has a cat that has 24/7 access to the outdoors and for years I have been chasing it out of my garden where it comes to kill the birds I feed. I often use an old brass garden sprayer filled with water.
    She leaves at a rate of knots and comes back again and again...

    My two were house cats that were out when anyone was at home and never killed anything but the occasional fly.
    I won't harm the cat, but she is a demon and I wish she would sod off elsewhere.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 39617

    My two were house cats that were out when anyone was at home and never killed anything but the occasional fly.
    I won't harm the cat, but she is a demon and I wish she would sod off elsewhere.
    The solution to this problem would actually be my cat - he never hunts any other animals larger than a moth... except other cats. He hates them with a burning intensity - if he ever sees one in our garden when he's inside, he demands to be let out immediately so he can go and attack the intruder. He's actually a complete pain to be honest! He's already been at the vets twice for infected cuts, as have a couple of the neighbours' cats...

    ...but no, you can't have him :).

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 951
    @ICBM ;
    Don't get me wrong, my two were as territorial as any of them. I lost count of the amount of plants, pots, radio's etc. that were knocked off windowsills and any other surfaces in a mad attempt to get at other cat's passing by or in the garden.
    As they are both dead, the neighbours cat has modified her behaviour, as the likelihood of having two furry cruise missiles set after her has gone.

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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 799
    That's a pathetic response from the RSPCA they are supposed to rescue animals from cruel or neglectful owners, clearly these are & you're offering to do part of it for them. Same goes for the rescue place.- owners said "they are too busy to come and check", there it is there, owners can't be arsed, or maybe just want rid because he too much of a handful.

    Not sure where you are, but if you contact these people maybe they could direct you to someone a bit more helpful-

    Alternatively, & more likely to have somewhere local- https://www.cats.org.uk/
    Hope it's not them that have refused to help so far.

    Driving him away & releasing him somewhere doesn't really fix it for him, though I can understand it's totally unfair on you & your neighbour's cats.

    Best of luck.

    Oh, & @LuttiS ; great photo. The people on cat forums never seem to have pictures of good guitars.
    Cats Protection were one of the places we contacted - no help or assistance, just said they can't take him as they are full... And try a vet. Vet said try cat's protection.

    Pisses me off as trying to do the right thing, but nobody is helping.
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  • LesbianWithAGunLesbianWithAGun Frets: 514
    edited July 20
    I have a loaner from the cats protection league, one of their humane traps... I caught a cat I thought was my missing cat who was another missing cat with this trap... I have to give it back this week or it'll cost me £100 they charge me and it'll cost them more to replace. Remember to not leave it unattended and to cover the trap with a sheet to calm the caught trapped cat down. If another tom cat or fox gets trapped, after you release it, wash your trap out because the scent of big cats and foxes will deter the target cat. When you bait the trap, don't put food on a bowl, the bowl will stop the trap mechanism from working, put bait food directly into the part of the trap where the bait goes. Take the cat to a vet to get it scanned to see if it's microchipped.
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 799
    Found a cat rescue place that has reserved a pen for me.... 50 miles away!

    Will keep ours in all night and check it every 2 hours. Hopefully it'll get sorted!
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  • ThePrettyDamnedThePrettyDamned Frets: 4074
    Good luck, and well done for doing the right thing - we went through this recently, but mum decided to, er, befriend it...

    So now she has two cats, kinda. 

    Since being more domesticated other neighbours have taken a shine to him and they absolutely adore him. Lives like a king now. 

    Original owners we think abandoned him. 
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 799
    The little shit didn't come round last- for the first time in months!!!

    Have moved the trap slightly and loaded it with tuna now. I heard him at 8am, so hopefully he'll come back round.
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