Sub-£1k bass for recording - for a guitar player (i.e. smaller neck/scale)

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Hello all,

I'm a guitarist but want to record bass.  Any recommendations on a neater bass for a guitar player?  I play guitars on the fatter side (PRS wide fat, etc.), well, certainly not super slim.

Thoughts welcome.  Much cheaper also works - and secondhand, if you're in/near/can post to Cumbria.

Thanks!
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  • There are quite a few worthy candidates in the Basses £ section of this very forum. (DISCLAIMER: A few of them might be mine.)

    Do you desire a bass guitar with a distinctive/recognisable character - Precision, Jazz, Stingray, Höfner, RIC 400n - or something that can blend in with whatever music you are making on the day?


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  • There are quite a few worthy candidates in the Basses £ section of this very forum. (DISCLAIMER: A few of them might be mine.)

    Do you desire a bass guitar with a distinctive/recognisable character - Precision, Jazz, Stingray, Höfner, RIC 400n - or something that can blend in with whatever music you are making on the day?


    @Funkfingers I think something versatile. I love playing thrash but also acoustic and light stuff. 
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  • I have this for sale over in Tyne and Wear, so not too far from Cumbria... 

    https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/169123/fs-ibanez-sr500-325-ono#latest

    It's not short scale, but has a nice slim neck, super easy to play. I transferred straight from guitar to this as a newbie no bother. Very versatile bass, currently has chrome flats on it but could easily handle the heavier stuff if you stuck some roundwounds onto it. Let me know if interested.  :)
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  • I have this for sale over in Tyne and Wear, so not too far from Cumbria... 

    https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/169123/fs-ibanez-sr500-325-ono#latest

    It's not short scale, but has a nice slim neck, super easy to play. I transferred straight from guitar to this as a newbie no bother. Very versatile bass, currently has chrome flats on it but could easily handle the heavier stuff if you stuck some roundwounds onto it. Let me know if interested.  :)
    Bit too far for me.  Thanks though!
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 4299
    Keep a lookout for a  s/h Yamaha BEX4- semi acoustic, great blend with a piezo & pickup
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 3410
    edited December 2019
    Have a look here too if you want to fish in a bigger pond. They are a great bunch of lads and very helpful .. a bit like this place 

    https://www.basschat.co.uk/
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  • thegummythegummy Frets: 2776
    One plays a bass completely differently to they play a guitar so I don't know that having the bass be closer in size to a guitar would necessarily be an advantage as you won't be using your guitar playing skills on it anyway.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 3410
    edited December 2019
    thegummy said:
    One plays a bass completely differently to they play a guitar so I don't know that having the bass be closer in size to a guitar would necessarily be an advantage as you won't be using your guitar playing skills on it anyway.
    I didn't want to say it, but everybody's first bass should be a P-bass, as it's the grandaddy of all bass guitars  
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  • imalrightjackimalrightjack Frets: 951
    edited December 2019
    thegummy said:
    One plays a bass completely differently to they play a guitar so I don't know that having the bass be closer in size to a guitar would necessarily be an advantage as you won't be using your guitar playing skills on it anyway.
    Which guitar playing skills are these? 

    I would like comfort. I don’t want a neck which feels relatively like a tree trunk.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 3410
    edited December 2019
    thegummy said:
    One plays a bass completely differently to they play a guitar so I don't know that having the bass be closer in size to a guitar would necessarily be an advantage as you won't be using your guitar playing skills on it anyway.
    Which guitar playing skills are these? 

    I would like comfort. I don’t want a neck which feels relatively like a tree trunk.
    Any bog standard 4-string bass would be comfortable to play. I had no problems moving between my Tele & Les Paul to the P-bass. In fact, the bass is now my favourite guitar to play. Try a few out first though..
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  • I'm a guitarist but want to record bass. 
    To what standard?

    For basic home demonstration recordings, you might get away with playing guitar through an octaver effect pedal or DAW processor. The sound and transient attack will be a bit fake but the gist of the idea will come across.

    For anything more serious, a full scale bass guitar is the best way to get a worthwhile sound. 
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  • 100% get a regular scale length if you're going to bother.

    A P Bass is the classic Rock/Roots sound.

    For more versatile (will do metal) but less characterful look at these two pickup models:
    SR series Ibanez
    Lakland Skyline 44-01
    Yamaha BB series (more trad rock funk sounds) 
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 4144
    edited December 2019
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  • VJIvesVJIves Frets: 334
    A few Squier Vista Musicmasters have been popping up on eBay/Facebook lately, they're great.
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  • ... especially after a pickup, pots and jack socket upgrade. :)
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  • Mexican P-bass a good fit?
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 5693
    edited December 2019
    Yes.

    A solid instrument for your money. Easy to upgrade if/when you feel the need.

    Over the years, Fender MIM P Basses have been offered with necks of various profiles and nut widths. These range from chunky, wide and deep (like a Fifties example) to the skinnier Jazz Bass profile. Literally, an MIM Standard J neck with a P Bass decal on its headstock.
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  • I’d go for one of the Sire basses. Probably a V7 Marcus Miller. They’re great (especially for the money) Jazz (slimmer neck than a P bass) and active (letting you get a wide range of sounds). 
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 3410
    edited December 2019
    I'm a guitarist but want to record bass. 
    To what standard?

    For basic home demonstration recordings, you might get away with playing guitar through an octaver effect pedal or DAW processor. The sound and transient attack will be a bit fake but the gist of the idea will come across.

    For anything more serious, a full scale bass guitar is the best way to get a worthwhile sound. 
    This is exactly how I progressed, and the P-bass was one of my better purchases. You can't beat the sound or playability of a real bass, especially with some nice flats fitted. The octave options works for basic stuff, but it is a bit rough and ready.
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  • Don't bother with short scale.

    Try a few to see which neck suits but, coming from guitar, you'll probably prefer the slimmer necks such as a Jazz rather than a precision.

    Get a set of light gauge strings on it.  I've got my Ibanez SR500 strung with Ernie Ball 90 - 40's, and I used to be a bass player!  Last time I checked they weren't giving out medals for being a hero and using heavier gauges.

    Lastly - it's going to be tough on the fingers at first, especially on the right if you don't use a pick (assuming that you're not one of these left-handed freaks that walk amongst us).  Probably better to have a good wank before you start as you may find it painful afterwards.  And, in case you were thinking of having sex instead - not a chance.  You're a bass player now.


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  • danowensdanowens Frets: 16
    edited December 2019
    A Squier Precision that's had a decent set up and has the 'right' (for you) strings on would be my recommendation. There's so much written about how the Precision is the definitive bass sound, in that it is simple and sits in the mix. Sure if you want a specific sound for slap or reggae or whatever then there are specific basses to do those jobs, but an all-round bass sound? I'd buy a Precision.

    EDIT: You can slap on a P-Bass and you can play reggae on a P-Bass. You can also get other bassses that sit in the mix as well as a P-Bass, but for ease, P-Bass wins.
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  • JMP220478JMP220478 Frets: 250
    edited December 2019
    Steinberger  style if you want something  - small and almost guitar sized ? 

    https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Steinberger-Spirit-XT-2-Standard-Bass-Guitar-Black/1WHQ  for reference 

    34" scale length but body small and therefore not miles away to first fret F ... 
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  • IMO, what we have under discussion is the perennial search for an instrument that can allow a guitarist to record rough guide bass guitar parts without having to make changes to playing technique or head space. 

    Unfortunately, those changes are exactly what need to be made to arrive at convincing bass parts.

    Bass is not just a big guitar. It's a way of life. (You'll love it.) The moves are different across and along the fingerboard. For me, that is part of the fun. By letting go of the guitar chords or riffs, it is possible to arrive at a bass line that provides harmonic, rhythmic and dynamic interest above and beyond plonking away on the root and fifth.


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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 3410
    edited December 2019
    IMO, what we have under discussion is the perennial search for an instrument that can allow a guitarist to record rough guide bass guitar parts without having to make changes to playing technique or head space. 

    Unfortunately, those changes are exactly what need to be made to arrive at convincing bass parts.

    Bass is not just a big guitar. It's a way of life. (You'll love it.) The moves are different across and along the fingerboard. For me, that is part of the fun. By letting go of the guitar chords or riffs, it is possible to arrive at a bass line that provides harmonic, rhythmic and dynamic interest above and beyond plonking away on the root and fifth.
    Spot on, and if you have an interest in bass lines, you will eventually end up with a real bass in your hands. It opens up a new dimension, and I see it as being the equal of the guitar parts. In fact, a song can stand or fall by its bass element. With a strong bass line, the guitar can be used to embellish and add colour to the various sections. Before getting my bass, I always relied on rhythm guitar to drive the song.

    A £1k budget is plenty to make the OP happy, and still have a few bob left over for Xmas drinks.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 19552
    Nah. Sod it. I “tried” bass and after a lot of ££ moved over completely. It’s that addictive. 

    Go for the full on shortcut and go straight for a fretless full scale. 




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  • Go for the full on shortcut and go straight for a fretless full scale. ;)
    That's only a half cut. :-p  Position markers are for wimps.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 19552
    Go for the full on shortcut and go straight for a fretless full scale. ;)
    That's only a half cut. :-p  Position markers are for wimps.
    Nah. They are purposely put in the wrong position - proper hard core
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  • digitech drop or similar ?   lots of plugins of its just record bass lines n not gig ? 
     
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  • SchnozzSchnozz Frets: 1077
    Tanglewood Overwater Aspiration Standard - £180. 

    Not back in Carlisle until next weekend, but I'm thinking of upgrading to a Bass over £1k.
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 2030
    JMP220478 said:
    Steinberger  style if you want something  - small and almost guitar sized ? 

    https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Steinberger-Spirit-XT-2-Standard-Bass-Guitar-Black/1WHQ  for reference 

    34" scale length but body small and therefore not miles away to first fret F ... 

    I say the opposite; due to the small body and how it sits/hangs, the 1st fret is about a fret further away than any other bass.
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