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  • After what's been going on recently I'm actually thinking of upping my game, blotting it all out and sober up when it's over.
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  • Danny1969 said:
    Danny1969 said:
    I drink about 30 pints a week and a bottle of red roughly, I only drink 4 nights a week now but it was 7 nights a week for many years. As you get older it's a good idea to reduce your intake. I think it's also important to have a couple of alcohol free nights to give the liver a chance to recover. 
    I have friends who do 7 to 10 pints every night with maybe 12 or so  on a Sunday Funday ... I couldn't do that these days 
    Mate. Are you really drinking 7 pints four nights a week? Thats seriously unhealthy. 
    I tend to drink most heavy on Friday and Sat as they are gig nights plus I like to be in the pub late Friday afternoon. Yeah it's not great but as I mentioned I used to be a lot worse. I quit smoking 10 years ago and haven't had a puff since so that's something :)
    Not trying to be a dick here but if a real world mate of mine drank like that I'd be genuinely concerned about them. Take it easy. 
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  • Danny1969 said:
    I drink about 30 pints a week and a bottle of red roughly, I only drink 4 nights a week now but it was 7 nights a week for many years. As you get older it's a good idea to reduce your intake. I think it's also important to have a couple of alcohol free nights to give the liver a chance to recover. 
    I have friends who do 7 to 10 pints every night with maybe 12 or so  on a Sunday Funday ... I couldn't do that these days 
    I’m about the same Danny although it’s mainly Friday and Saturday nights for me when gigging, with the occasional Sunday afternoon thrown in. 

    The band I’ve played in for 12 or so years revolves around having a few bevvies. We were all best friends before we started the band so it’s very much a social get together for us as well as providing a service. We are just coming off our busiest year to date so we must be doing something right.

    I never drink through the week so I guess that gives my body enough time to recover. 
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  • gringopiggringopig Frets: 1898
    SNAKEBITE said:
    After what's been going on recently I'm actually thinking of upping my game, blotting it all out and sober up when it's over.
    Your liver will be crispy by that time.
    If I ever think about buying a Two Rock just punch me.
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  • gringopiggringopig Frets: 1898
     I know women in their 50s drinking 2 bottles of wine a night with no obvious effects, and some people younger who get very tipsy on just half a bottle, it's hard to make generalisations
    No obvious effects but the damage to internal organs and the brain will be occurring nonetheless. Alcoholic liver disease won't take long at that rate.
    If I ever think about buying a Two Rock just punch me.
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  • gringopig said:
     I know women in their 50s drinking 2 bottles of wine a night with no obvious effects, and some people younger who get very tipsy on just half a bottle, it's hard to make generalisations
    No obvious effects but the damage to internal organs and the brain will be occurring nonetheless. Alcoholic liver disease won't take long at that rate.
    it's not to be recommended

    Surprisingly though, the data I saw said that very heavy drinkers (1+ bottles of spirits per day) were only 50% likely to get serious cirrhosis after 20 years of drinking at that rate, so it's clearly more complicated than everyone having the same outcome 
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  • Danny1969 said:
    I drink about 30 pints a week and a bottle of red roughly, I only drink 4 nights a week now but it was 7 nights a week for many years. As you get older it's a good idea to reduce your intake. I think it's also important to have a couple of alcohol free nights to give the liver a chance to recover. 
    I have friends who do 7 to 10 pints every night with maybe 12 or so  on a Sunday Funday ... I couldn't do that these days 
    I’m about the same Danny although it’s mainly Friday and Saturday nights for me when gigging, with the occasional Sunday afternoon thrown in. 

    The band I’ve played in for 12 or so years revolves around having a few bevvies. We were all best friends before we started the band so it’s very much a social get together for us as well as providing a service. We are just coming off our busiest year to date so we must be doing something right.

    I never drink through the week so I guess that gives my body enough time to recover. 
    If you're drinking 30 plus pints with additional wine etc your body is not recovering like you think, it will lead to addiction,  if you're partner asked you to suddenly stop would you feel totslly fine with that or worried and refuse? If you would feel worried/nervous about stopping etc you have the start of a phychologial addiction to alcohol, unless steps are taken now I would be surprised if it doesn't turn into a full physical addiction in the future, don't forget alcohol is a poison, it will not only damage your liver but every part of you especially your brain {korsicovs syndrome).

    You may not drink through the week but you're more than making up for it on the 2/3 days you do,

    Sorry for the lecture but as an alcohol worker for nearly 20 years I saw this all to often, I would rather be physically  addicted to heroin than alcohol as its easier to come off and less damaging belive it or not 
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  •  would rather be physically  addicted to heroin than alcohol as its easier to come off and less damaging belive it or not 
    Is that true? :astonished: 
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  •  would rather be physically  addicted to heroin than alcohol as its easier to come off and less damaging belive it or not 
    Is that true? :astonished: 



    100% I can count on 2 hands the amount of heroin users who died in my time as a drug worker, I can't count the amount of alcohol dependent  clients. Way to many 
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     would rather be physically  addicted to heroin than alcohol as its easier to come off and less damaging belive it or not 
    Is that true? :astonished: 
    I remember reading that opiates are more aligned with human body chemistry than alcohol, and in theory if you had a supply of very pure heroin and got your dosages well managed, you could probably live a long and happy life. And that if you stopped the heroin, withdrawal might be unpleasant, but you could return to perfect physical health. Whereas alcohol will just slowly poison your body and you would never get back to 100%, plus the withdrawl can kill you.
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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 4280
    CloudNine said:
     would rather be physically  addicted to heroin than alcohol as its easier to come off and less damaging belive it or not 
    Is that true? :astonished: 
    I remember reading that opiates are more aligned with human body chemistry than alcohol, and in theory if you had a supply of very pure heroin and got your dosages well managed, you could probably live a long and happy life. And that if you stopped the heroin, withdrawal might be unpleasant, but you could return to perfect physical health. Whereas alcohol will just slowly poison your body and you would never get back to 100%, plus the withdrawl can kill you.
    It worked for Keith Richards 
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  • @CloudNine absoloutly true heroin itsself is pretty inert, where as alcohol is a poison which damages everything it touches, the addiction to heroin has a much quicker onset, hence the belief its worse, However the main way people die from heroin is oversose which means your brain gets so relaxed it forgets to breath, where as alcohol the main way is your liver packing up so you drown in your own body whilst it simutaniously poisons itsself due to the liver not filtering toxins, 
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  • mgaw said:
    Similar to me. I'm almost 39, I'm slim, I don't exercise enough but I'll change that once my personal life balances out. 

    I drink too much. Mainly because the past year I've had a long 10 year relationship end, moved cities, moved jobs, bought a new build, got into another relationship which again ended terribly, on her part.

    The only way to deal with the acute anxiety was a few beers. We aren't talking smashed all the time, but a few a night.

    Last week I unfortunately had bronchitis and stopped all alcohol. It was ok! But the time spent resting meant my brain was on overdrive.

    I do need to sort myself out but whilst I'm single and enjoying my mates, music, my newish job and trying to keep my head above the water, the alcohol takes the edge off.
    certainly relate to this, maybe look at ways to lessen your anxiety..

    Without a doubt. Staying clear of cold manipulative potential partners seems the only way. 
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  • I can't drink and play,  I literally forget how to play a chord.   Don't know how these people drink and gig
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  • RobDaviesRobDavies Frets: 2015
    I can't drink and play,  I literally forget how to play a chord.   Don't know how these people drink and gig


    Same here - I'm a pretty ropey player at the best of times but even after one 330ml bottle of lager, my accuracy goes out of the window.

    The run up to Christmas this year has been particularly boozy this year, and while I don't feel that bad after a night on the sauce, I've started to get a bit run down, have a sore throat and developed a tickly cough.... alcohol always screw my immune system.

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  • After a couple of years of heavy trade show drinking and way to many trades shows and then endless dinners and meetings.

    my recent @60 medical results were not pleasant reading on any line.

    So 6 weeks into the new dry healthy regime and things are looking up. Weight is falling off for a better diet and lack of beer and whiskey calories. 

    Think its 10 years of being on the wagon for me if I want to still be getting shit done in my 60’s.

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  • oh_pollooh_pollo Frets: 160
    30 pints and a bottle of red = 1 Harley Benton.
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  • DrJazzTapDrJazzTap Frets: 1163
    edited December 2019
    oh_pollo said:
    30 pints and a bottle of red = 1 Harley Benton.
    That's how my bassist got his Warwick. He had some pos low end thing and was spending a fortune on weed (like £240 a month). It was breakfast, lunch and a dinnertime thing for him. 

    I suggested going dry, pointing out that if he had to have a drink in the morning then he'd be an alcoholic. Four months later and he bought a super nice Warwick.
    I would love to change my username, but I fully understand the T&C's (it was an old band nickname). So please feel free to call me Dave.
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    There is a significant possibility that whatever I've posted above is absolute bollocks.
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  • robgilmorobgilmo Frets: 2373
    robgilmo said:
    robgilmo said:
    A few drams a week? I wouldn't call that excessive, unless a dram means a bottle? Im 40+ and I have always liked a drink, week ends only, maybe a bottle of wine, or a few beers , or both, now and again I like to drink spirits, whiskey mostly , and on a good night a half a bottle is easy.
    However, this last few years my hang overs are just brutal, for instance, last Friday night I drank 4 cans of beer, Saturday morning and I literally felt like a train hit me, surely thats not normal? It could be tiredness, or dehydration, or probably both, but they seem to be getting worse as I get older.
    wow, that is strange. is that a one off reaction?
    Not really , no, been like this for a while, I can drink a fair amount or I can drink a little, hangovers are always the same, harsh.
    I know a lot of people who drink 8 units of alcohol with little consequences
    Since that's a change for you, maybe it's because your tolerance is down or because your body has lost its capability
    I'd ask other people too, but 4 drinks seems too little to get hangovers if you didn't have them before.
    You could get a liver function test done I guess, I don't really know what to advise. I've heard people complain that if they admit to drinking a bottle of wine to a GP they get labelled as alcoholic, so it's hard to know what to advise.

    The ethanol metabolic path has lots of things that could vary for someone, so not easy to predict.

    Speaking personally, I think my alcohol tolerance has probably gone down 25% at 50+
    You'd probably have to evaluate if your change looks medically significant. I know women in their 50s drinking 2 bottles of wine a night with no obvious effects, and some people younger who get very tipsy on just half a bottle, it's hard to make generalisations
    Could be just tired and/or dehydration, I am usually one or the other. As an experiment, I will drink 4 cans tonight, and plenty of water as well, and maybe have an early night, see what's what in the morning.
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  • After a couple of years of heavy trade show drinking and way to many trades shows and then endless dinners and meetings.

    my recent @60 medical results were not pleasant reading on any line.

    So 6 weeks into the new dry healthy regime and things are looking up. Weight is falling off for a better diet and lack of beer and whiskey calories. 

    Think its 10 years of being on the wagon for me if I want to still be getting shit done in my 60’s.

    Good work! First few weeks are tough, great that you're already seeing the benefit!
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  • A lot of the negative effects happen over a long period of time so you don't realise how much it is effecting you. You just except that is the way you feel. It's not just feeling physically ill either it effect how you behave, how you make decisions etc. It changes you. 
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  • StavrosStavros Frets: 157
    I would like to cut down to see if it helps my sleep, due to various worries I’m struggling with getting back to sleep in the night even though I go off all right. 

    I don’t think I drink excessively, maybe share a bottle of wine 3 times a week, plus the odd craft beer, and 2 or 3 pints early doors on a Friday. 

    Trouble is I do enjoy a nice beer or glass of wine, and although low or non alcoholic beers have improved drastically (such as Brewdog Nanny State), the wines are pretty awful. Anyone know of a decent low or non alcoholic wine?
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  • SchnozzSchnozz Frets: 1058
    edited December 2019
    There's nothing better than a beer and guitar on a Friday night, but I have to have 2-4 to get to 'that place'. I think 2-4 beers is acceptable every other week (particularly after a tough one). I can go beyond, but it's tough now I'm over 30, but I will do it in good company.
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  • robgilmorobgilmo Frets: 2373
    Schnozz said:
    There's nothing better than a beer and guitar on a Friday night, buy I have to have 2-4 to get to 'that place'. I think 2-4 beers is acceptable every other week (particularly after a tough one). I can go beyond, but it's tough now I'm over 30, but I will do it in good company.
    I feel you, I too find that a few drinks helps me enjoy playing at home.
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  • Stavros said:
    I would like to cut down to see if it helps my sleep, due to various worries I’m struggling with getting back to sleep in the night even though I go off all right. 

    I don’t think I drink excessively, maybe share a bottle of wine 3 times a week, plus the odd craft beer, and 2 or 3 pints early doors on a Friday. 

    Trouble is I do enjoy a nice beer or glass of wine, and although low or non alcoholic beers have improved drastically (such as Brewdog Nanny State), the wines are pretty awful. Anyone know of a decent low or non alcoholic wine?
    I've not found one that isn't sparkling, but some of the non-alcoholic prosecco type things are ok. Big Tesco has a surprisingly good selection of alcohol free things, sorry I can't remember the names. But yeah, I do miss red wine...
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