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vizviz Frets: 6491
Warning Sammy content, but this is awesome

https://youtu.be/HRwa0GUaTe0
Misogyny ... enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it. - Guitartango
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  • cosmiccarrotcosmiccarrot Frets: 62
    edited January 5
    I agree. I always enjoyed Eddie's rhythm playing more than the solos. It's a shame there's no live official footage from the Roth era.
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 3043
    One of the two all-time great guitarists for me (the other being Hendrix) - people who showed what the guitar is capable. A damned fine drummer there too.
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  • pmbombpmbomb Frets: 1102
    edited January 5
    Horses for courses. I see plenty of over-performed widdling (no dispute on the skill level) but not much of an actual song. Feels all me-me-me**.

    I'd take something basic but tuneful any day. Pistols/Stones/Purple/endless list.

    Each to their own of course.

    *** it's a stylistic choice of course, EVH has always seemed a decent and grounded guy in interviews.
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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 5172
    The riff he plays over the verse is clever, dropping the bass note while the other notes still ringing .. That Live without a Net era is probably EVH and the band at the peak of their powers 
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  • MajorscaleMajorscale Frets: 1030
    That was an insanely good performance. I haven't listened to them in years but there's no deny their amazing prowess and songwriting skills.
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 1165
    Awesome indeed. I love it.

    It's not a competition.
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 16253
    pmbomb said:
    Horses for courses. I see plenty of over-performed widdling (no dispute on the skill level) but not much of an actual song. Feels all me-me-me**.

    I would respectfully disagree, in that I think that Van Halen were always about songs and EVH played for the song. I never felt that he was an indulgent egotistical guitarist, just a very creative one. Still, we can all have differing opinions!

    They were an amazing band, both eras. I still play the Hagar era a lot, such a shame it fell apart. The one thing that bugged me with the newer lineup was the ditching of Michael Anthony for Wolfgang. 
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 3074
    edited January 5
    I’m not a Sammy fan. Prefer classic EVH. IMHO Eddie is the best guitarist who has ever lived, and Van Helen the perfect rock n’ roll band.  If I’m ever down, it’s guaranteed the Diver Down will lift my spirits. 

    When I think of Eddie, the solo to ‘Beat It’ pops into my head. Done in a single take, most of it is outside of the key, it sounds incredible. 

    If I played guitar for a thousand years, I still wouldn’t develop the creativity needed to come up with a solo like that, on the spot. It’s utterly beyond my comprehension.  Though, I greatly appreciate it. 

    A gifted guitar genius. 

    I agree with @axisus. Eddie is about the song first, the exact opposite to Vai. 
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  • vizviz Frets: 6491
    TheMarlin said:
    I’m not a Sammy fan. Prefer classic EVH. IMHO Eddie is the best guitarist who has ever lived, and Van Helen the perfect rock n’ roll band.  If I’m ever down, it’s guaranteed the Diver Down will lift my spirits. 

    When I think of Eddie, the solo to ‘Beat It’ pops into my head. Done in a single take, most of it is outside of the key, it sounds incredible. 

    If I played guitar for a thousand years, I still wouldn’t develop the creativity needed to come up with a solo like that, on the spot. It’s utterly beyond my comprehension.  Though, I greatly appreciate it. 

    A gifted guitar genius. 

    I agree with @axisus. Eddie is about the song first, the exact opposite to Vai. 
    Ooooh interesting - I’d say Eddie and Vai are about the song first, the exact opposite to Malmsteen!
    Misogyny ... enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it. - Guitartango
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  • HeelHeel Frets: 268
    viz said:
    Warning Sammy content, but this is awesome

    https://youtu.be/HRwa0GUaTe0
    Excellent.  My favourite VH period tbh. 
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    TheMarlin said:
    I’m not a Sammy fan. Prefer classic EVH. IMHO Eddie is the best guitarist who has ever lived, and Van Helen the perfect rock n’ roll band.  If I’m ever down, it’s guaranteed the Diver Down will lift my spirits. 

    When I think of Eddie, the solo to ‘Beat It’ pops into my head. Done in a single take, most of it is outside of the key, it sounds incredible. 

    If I played guitar for a thousand years, I still wouldn’t develop the creativity needed to come up with a solo like that, on the spot. It’s utterly beyond my comprehension.  Though, I greatly appreciate it. 

    A gifted guitar genius. 

    I agree with @axisus. Eddie is about the song first, the exact opposite to Vai. 
    Not sure your Bigsby could take the abuse. ;)
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  • HeelHeel Frets: 268
    pmbomb said:
    Horses for courses. I see plenty of over-performed widdling (no dispute on the skill level) but not much of an actual song. Feels all me-me-me**.

    I'd take something basic but tuneful any day. Pistols/Stones/Purple/endless list.

    Each to their own of course.

    *** it's a stylistic choice of course, EVH has always seemed a decent and grounded guy in interviews.
    This is an unfortunate take. The bass defining the progression yet contrasting with the guitar is wonderful. 
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 1165
    edited January 5
    Danny1969 said:
     .. That Live without a Net era is probably EVH and the band at the peak of their powers 

    I've got that DVD which is a classic. Time for another listen/watch I think.

    It's not a competition.
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  • vizviz Frets: 6491
    Where did Annette go anyway?
    Misogyny ... enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it. - Guitartango
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 1165
    edited January 5
    viz said:
    Where did Annette go anyway?

    To New Haven Halen.

    It's not a competition.
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 2079
    edited January 5
    Loved that.

    EVH is one of the best rhythm guitarists on the planet who also happens to be a bit handy at soloing
    Great and clear guitar sound,too, and overall for that matter.

    Musically, this was a good era and Michael Anthony was such an asset with strong bass playing and his vocals.
     www.cairoeast.co.uk - Madness Tribute band (Bass Player) and guitarist elsewhere
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 3074
    Heel said:

    TheMarlin said:
    I’m not a Sammy fan. Prefer classic EVH. IMHO Eddie is the best guitarist who has ever lived, and Van Helen the perfect rock n’ roll band.  If I’m ever down, it’s guaranteed the Diver Down will lift my spirits. 

    When I think of Eddie, the solo to ‘Beat It’ pops into my head. Done in a single take, most of it is outside of the key, it sounds incredible. 

    If I played guitar for a thousand years, I still wouldn’t develop the creativity needed to come up with a solo like that, on the spot. It’s utterly beyond my comprehension.  Though, I greatly appreciate it. 

    A gifted guitar genius. 

    I agree with @axisus. Eddie is about the song first, the exact opposite to Vai. 
    Not sure your Bigsby could take the abuse. ;)
    Different animal, though a well sorted Bigsby might surprise with what it can do. Unequaled for a nice little wobble though. 

    Born in the late 60’e, I played an RG750 as my main guitar for about 15 years (alongside a Steinberger for about 20 years) before I ‘matured’ into a nice comfy Gretsch. 

    So comfy!  But perfect for me. I absolutely adore Filtertrons. It must be a manopause age thing....
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  • HeelHeel Frets: 268
    @TheMarlin Thinking about it, my Gretsch is my midlife guitar and the Strat was my younger self. I like to think I’m classier, glassier, smoother...yet still made in the Fender factory! Played a £3k Gretsch (hollowbody) recently and it was my favourite. Maybe one day. When I’m really old. 
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  • pmbombpmbomb Frets: 1102
    but why try harder when you're already perfect?


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  • pmbombpmbomb Frets: 1102
    ^^ & for JJ, that counts as energetic!
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  • StuckfastStuckfast Frets: 919
    Well it's a silly genre of music and I can't imagine ever putting in the effort to do something so silly so well, but it is bloody impressive!
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  • english_bobenglish_bob Frets: 3006
    A few weeks back I had my phone playing music on shuffle. A song I didn't recognize started playing (there's a lot of music on there...) and I was immediately struck by the guitarist's tone and feel, by interesting note choices and really good, clean technique.

    Turned out to be "Learning To See", which was recorded for the Best Of Both Worlds VH best of.

    Point is, even if you don't know who's playing, and even when it's not exactly one of their best, or best known songs, Eddie stands out as someone who really knows how to play the shit out of the guitar.

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • robertyroberty Frets: 2350
    Stuckfast said:
    Well it's a silly genre of music and I can't imagine ever putting in the effort to do something so silly so well, but it is bloody impressive!
    The 80s were very silly. Everyone is moody and cool now, no camp or pomp. Possibly because the 80s stand as a warning
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  • GrunfeldGrunfeld Frets: 3364
    I found this recording of the first time I saw Van Halen.
    They were the support band.
    It's audio only but it is great quality.
    My mate and I had never seen or heard anything like them.
    Poor old Black Sabbath came on after this lot, it was their 10th anniversary tour.  They just seemed like plodding dinosaurs.


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  • ChuckManualChuckManual Frets: 679
    edited January 10
    My favourite 'album' of theirs...
    Not much of the gear, even less idea.
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  • ChuckManualChuckManual Frets: 679
    Not much of the gear, even less idea.
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