Set neck telepaul build

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DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
I've been meaning to get around to this for a while, I'm a short scale person and like Gibson necks and set necks, I also like some fender bits, mostly for the clean tones

Plan is LP alder body flame maple neck, tele bridge and mojo slightly hotter bridge then a staple p90

Here's a mock up of what I'm after


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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    First thing to do route a body to shape, usual stuff bandsaw close and finish on the overhead router then robbo sand, it all went ok 


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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    I then moved onto the neck, first thing square up a great chunk of quatersawn flame maple, it's a good workout then bandsaw the headstock angle which I reduced to around 13 degrees to keep more strength in it then I  routed the traditional truss rod channel

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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Traditional rod was made then installed and filler strip glued in, hand planned flat and we have a mock up with a zirocote fretboard


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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 1711
    Nice!
    Stranger from another planet welcome to our hole - Just strap on your guitar and we'll play some rock 'n' roll

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  • PeteCPeteC Frets: 71
    really like the idea of this...watching with interest.
    Do you true up your neck blanks with a handplane ? Getting tired of reading all the US posts where everyone seems to have a full basement workshop with jointers, planers, huge bandsaws, etc etc and no-one actually seems to hand work anything ! 

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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    PeteC said:
    really like the idea of this...watching with interest.
    Do you true up your neck blanks with a handplane ? Getting tired of reading all the US posts where everyone seems to have a full basement workshop with jointers, planers, huge bandsaws, etc etc and no-one actually seems to hand work anything ! 

    I have a surface planer that's not great, it does one job and that's to take the rough sawn bits off, I then true up the blank by hand, all the power tools do is speed parts of a build up, my most used power tools are a sander thicknesser and my overhead router, most of my work is by hand 

    As long as your tools are sharp it makes things easier

    One thing I didn't show was the neck blank was big enough for 2 necks so I do headstock angles top and bottom then truss rod channels, it's much easier for me like this
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  • BillKatBillKat Frets: 1564
    Very nice Darren, nicely different combo with the staple too.
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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    BillKat said:
    Very nice Darren, nicely different combo with the staple too.
    Thanks Bill, it's that staple I'm dying to fire up, I'll be using his proper replica one for a full custom build when I get time 
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  • Andyjr1515Andyjr1515 Frets: 2249
    Looking nice.  Very neat trussrod access - what did you use to cut that?
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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Looking nice.  Very neat trussrod access - what did you use to cut that?
    I use a spot facer 3/4 inch with a 3/16 pilot, I do them by hand but add a small shim in the truss rod channel so it only goes as deep as needed no more, it adds more strength imo
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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    I make my fretboards slightly different to most, I flat the board, taper it, radius it then slot it, I do dots after too, I got fed up with going back over fret slots and I like them just deep enough over the radius
    You'll see my 12 inch radius jig, it's built like a tank and works extremely well





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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Mortice cutting on the overhead router, I'm using a LP long tenon because I want to alter the cutaway to open it out a bit plus I don't like losing a side wall when it's glued in, it's better from my finishing point of view


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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Next up thickness a neck and trim it down near fretboard width, it's easier to fit the tenon like this, I use the overhead router to get the tenon down to virtually done, this leaves me to use a hand scraper to fit the tenon properly then it's the shoulders, I use a flush cut saw to cut the shoulders a smidge over what I want then use a chisel to square up and fit the shoulders, I have to take some off the back of the tenon so it doesn't stop the tenon going in

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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    This is how I get the tenon to size leaving a bit of work to do, it's still not that quick but the result is a perfect joint


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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Here's the tenon fitted, I'll trim the rest of the  neck up later


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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Headstock shaped on the router

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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Mock up

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  • Keep up the good work @Danielsguitars - I'm really.enjoying this thread!
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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Oh forgot to show the lovely zirocote fretboard

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  • Wow that's amazing work! 
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  • BillKatBillKat Frets: 1564
    Nice to see those pics Darren, good stuff. I'm getting sold on the pin/overhead setup more & more, just been to see my mate's ones.
    That board is psychedelic ... dead good.
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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    BillKat said:
    Nice to see those pics Darren, good stuff. I'm getting sold on the pin/overhead setup more & more, just been to see my mate's ones.
    That board is psychedelic ... dead good.
    I got a pin router after making my first Les Paul years ago, especially doing them vintage style, any other way is just a pita, I also like pickup routes on the neck plane 

    The other thing is I like seeing what I'm doing, it's easier to stop any bad mistakes

    Get one, you'll wish you did it years ago 
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  • PeteCPeteC Frets: 71
    Could you show a few pics of your pin router set up Darren ?   really interested in how your set up works.  
    Your latest build is spurring me on with my first and now second build - great inspiration. 
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    PeteC said:
    Could you show a few pics of your pin router set up Darren ?   really interested in how your set up works.  
    Your latest build is spurring me on with my first and now second build - great inspiration. 
    I'll try just bear in mind it's not the holy grail, I had to make compromises and learn how to get the best out of it, I'm up one flight of stairs so can only have a small one, I'd love a big charnwood or wadkin, no way that's getting in my place

    Mine came with a Watford motor which was pretty useless tbh so I had an engineer friend make me a beautiful bottom plate to take a big elu or trend motor then it has to have the extension which isn't ideal so I had Mr engineering man make lots of different pins, different lengths and some oversize too to compensate for any runout, I've got it working well after the initial agro

    You can get away with using a table router imo it's just carved tops are a pita and why I have the overhead, wouldn't go back to using anything else, I use a small hand router for tiny jobs if it's easier 
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 2377
    Looks like it'll be a beauty Darren. 

    I'd love to see it person when it's done, I'll give you a shout sometime.
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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    I have a fretboard glued on a neck now, first I made up shims for the board to sit on then made flat with the overhead, I have a slight angle so jack up the body a tad route most of it off and finish with a scraper, the board now sits perfectly flat



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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Next up fit dot inlays and side dots, this is tedious but we're done, I'll glue the inlay dots in tomorrow, I pin the board on the neck for locating when I use the hot hide glue, it's quick, glue, pin and wrap 



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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    We're back now the neck joint has been fully fitted and it's come out lovely, shims trimmed and necks been carved leaving just finish sanding etcI trim the neck with the overhead get it almost flush then it's chisel and sandpaper 




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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 1599
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    Now a bit of neck carving and this is what I use, for sanding I use some MDF with paper on it, a rubber squeegee and a radius block, the Japanese saw rasp is fantastic for getting a neck done fast, it takes material off quick



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