20 debut Rock albums of all time [Rick Beato - YouTube]

duotone

https://youtu.be/8sDkMSYmSJI

Cols

Can’t believe Black Sabbath didn’t even make the list!

duotone

Cols said:

Can’t believe Black Sabbath didn’t even make the list!

Yeah I thought that too, I guess they’ll be classed as heavy-metal though.

Cols

duotone said:

Cols said:

Can’t believe Black Sabbath didn’t even make the list!

Yeah I thought that too, I guess they’ll be classed as heavy-metal though.

Aye - but the list seems very broad in its definition of ‘rock’.  NIN, Velvet Underground, Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins... and Linkin Park?

scrumhalf

Rick has said in other videos that if bands block his use of their music he won't include them in his videos. 

duotone

scrumhalf said:

Rick has said in other videos that if bands block his use of their music he won't include them in his videos. 

Didn’t know that @scrumhalf ;
but it makes sense

Cols

scrumhalf said:

Rick has said in other videos that if bands block his use of their music he won't include them in his videos. 

Fair enough if you’re doing something like ‘What makes Whole Lotta Love such a great song’; you can’t exactly go “You know what rules?  That bit where it goes ‘DAH!  DAH!  Widdly widdly wee!’” without sounding like Beavis and Butthead.

If you’re just doing a top 20 albums list all you have to do is say “Black Sabbath - incredible debut album, fusing heavy blues, horror lyrics and bonecrushing riffs in a sledgehammer series of songs.  Created a whole new genre in the first three notes on the first track”.  

Being able to play the music is an added bonus.

ICBM

Cols said:

If you’re just doing a top 20 albums list all you have to do is say “Black Sabbath - incredible debut album, fusing heavy blues, horror lyrics and bonecrushing riffs in a sledgehammer series of songs.  Created a whole new genre in the first three notes on the first track”.

This - and not just a genre of music, an entire subculture.

Whatever you think of it musically it's the most important and influential debut album ever made.

dindude

Rick needs to get out of his studio a bit more, he gets so wound up by the blocking thing, I can’t handle his videos these days, most are just rants, complete with annoying knee shaking and angry looks to camera - just go for a nice walk in the park Rick, get some air.

Keiko

Cols said:

scrumhalf said:

Rick has said in other videos that if bands block his use of their music he won't include them in his videos. 

Fair enough if you’re doing something like ‘What makes Whole Lotta Love such a great song’; you can’t exactly go “You know what rules?  That bit where it goes ‘DAH!  DAH!  Widdly widdly wee!’” without sounding like Beavis and Butthead.

If you’re just doing a top 20 albums list all you have to do is say “Black Sabbath - incredible debut album, fusing heavy blues, horror lyrics and bonecrushing riffs in a sledgehammer series of songs.  Created a whole new genre in the first three notes on the first track”.  

Being able to play the music is an added bonus.

I think you're missing the point. He is refusing to promote those bands on principle, not just refusing to play the music. If they don't want their music promoting on youtube, then he is not going to promote it.

english_bob

dindude said:

Rick needs to get out of his studio a bit more, he gets so wound up by the blocking thing, I can’t handle his videos these days, most are just rants, complete with annoying knee shaking and angry looks to camera - just go for a nice walk in the park Rick, get some air.

Yep. I find him interesting sometimes, but there's frequently too much old man "in my day" ranting.

Some of his "What makes this song great" videos are fun and informative, whereas others are just "I love this bit where it goes BOWW BOWW BOWW BOWW NANANANANANANANAAA!" while he plays air drums and stares unblinking in to the camera.

EricTheWeary

english_bob said:

dindude said:

Rick needs to get out of his studio a bit more, he gets so wound up by the blocking thing, I can’t handle his videos these days, most are just rants, complete with annoying knee shaking and angry looks to camera - just go for a nice walk in the park Rick, get some air.

Yep. I find him interesting sometimes, but there's frequently too much old man "in my day" ranting.

Some of his "What makes this song great" videos are fun and informative, whereas others are just "I love this bit where it goes BOWW BOWW BOWW BOWW NANANANANANANANAAA!" while he plays air drums and stares unblinking in to the camera.

Like most YouTubers driven to create constant content regardless of quality. Having said that I watched his Spotify Top ten video last night which seemed informative and balanced; possibly at his best when offering critical analysis rather than just espousing his personal preferences.   

Philly_Q

dindude said:

Rick needs to get out of his studio a bit more, he gets so wound up by the blocking thing, I can’t handle his videos these days, most are just rants, complete with annoying knee shaking and angry looks to camera - just go for a nice walk in the park Rick, get some air.

Last night I watched some bloke called The Guitologist ranting on about Beato ranting about blocking.  I hadn't realised blocking was a big issue, apart from a video I saw with Rhett Shull bleating about not being able to use his own solo.

Cols

Keiko said:

Cols said:

scrumhalf said:

Rick has said in other videos that if bands block his use of their music he won't include them in his videos. 

Fair enough if you’re doing something like ‘What makes Whole Lotta Love such a great song’; you can’t exactly go “You know what rules?  That bit where it goes ‘DAH!  DAH!  Widdly widdly wee!’” without sounding like Beavis and Butthead.

If you’re just doing a top 20 albums list all you have to do is say “Black Sabbath - incredible debut album, fusing heavy blues, horror lyrics and bonecrushing riffs in a sledgehammer series of songs.  Created a whole new genre in the first three notes on the first track”.  

Being able to play the music is an added bonus.

I think you're missing the point. He is refusing to promote those bands on principle, not just refusing to play the music. If they don't want their music promoting on youtube, then he is not going to promote it.

That would be fine if the title of the vid was “20 debut albums by bands which I’d like to promote”, but it’s not.  It’s “Top 20 debut rock albums of all time”.

Funkfingers

Just more meaningless click bait.

If RB name-checked lots of your personal favourite artistes, you might well be nodding in agreement and feeling validated. If he omitted lots of your favourites, you might well take the view that he is a biased oaf.

english_bob

Funkfingers said:

Just more meaningless click bait.

If RB name-checked lots of your personal favourite artistes, you might well be nodding in agreement and feeling validated. If he omitted lots of your favourites, you might well take the view that he is a biased oaf.

Either way you have to watch to the end to find out if he left out the band you like. Then you have to leave a comment to say "Beato you buffoon, how could you leave out The Spunkmuffins?" or "Yay! Not enough people appreciate the wonderful debut album of seminal proto-grunge band Cockwomble. You're so wonderful Rick.". It's all engagement.

Cranky

Just click it so the man can get a few more pennies.

underdog

english_bob said:

Funkfingers said:

Just more meaningless click bait.

If RB name-checked lots of your personal favourite artistes, you might well be nodding in agreement and feeling validated. If he omitted lots of your favourites, you might well take the view that he is a biased oaf.

Either way you have to watch to the end to find out if he left out the band you like. Then you have to leave a comment to say "Beato you buffoon, how could you leave out The Spunkmuffins?" or "Yay! Not enough people appreciate the wonderful debut album of seminal proto-grunge band Cockwomble. You're so wonderful Rick.". It's all engagement.

The spunkmuffins? Pfft I liked their original line up before they got famous and were known as the jizzcakes, but anything they done after that was terrible.

english_bob

underdog said:

The spunkmuffins? Pfft I liked their original line up before they got famous and were known as the jizzcakes, but anything they done after that was terrible.

They were never the same after they fired Pansy Wankpuffin. Amazing drummer.

Octahedron

english_bob said:

underdog said:

The spunkmuffins? Pfft I liked their original line up before they got famous and were known as the jizzcakes, but anything they done after that was terrible.

They were never the same after they fired Pansy Wankpuffin. Amazing drummer.

 Right? So glad I got to see that classic line-up.

In all seriousness though I recently discovered RB's videos. And I don't like his videos.

No doubt he's influential and done heaps of work on heaps of influential stuff but he just comes across as a massive snob in his videos tbh.

english_bob

Octahedron said:

english_bob said:

underdog said:

The spunkmuffins? Pfft I liked their original line up before they got famous and were known as the jizzcakes, but anything they done after that was terrible.

They were never the same after they fired Pansy Wankpuffin. Amazing drummer.

 Right? So glad I got to see that classic line-up.

In all seriousness though I recently discovered RB's videos. And I don't like his videos.

No doubt he's influential and done heaps of work on heaps of influential stuff but he just comes across as a massive snob in his videos tbh.

Absolutely. However interesting the content is, it always has to include one of his old man "back in my day"/"they don't make 'em like they used to"/"XYZ ruined rock music" moans.

And as it turns out, he hasn't "done heaps of work on heaps of influential stuff". Just produced a load of mediocre arse-end-of-the-rock-era landfill. 

https://www.discogs.com/artist/739088-Rick-Beato?type=Credits&filter_anv=0