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vizviz Frets: 6499
edited August 1 in Off Topic
I find it amazing that the spelling “ough” has at least 9 different pronunciations - oo, ow, off, uh, up, or, ock, oh and uff. 
Misogyny ... enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it. - Guitartango
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  • phil_bphil_b Frets: 1049
    dont worry everything is turning American
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  • steveledzepsteveledzep Frets: 770
    It's pronunciation  :)
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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 21250
    edited August 1
    I seem to be the only person left who pronounces ‘H’ as ‘aitch’.

    It’s appalling how far standards have fallen....
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 10119


    It’s appalling how much standards have fallen....
    Sorry Richard, that’s happalling. 
    When the rich wage war it’s the poor who die. 
    Jean-Paul Sartre 
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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    It's pronunciation  :)
    Shite :)
    Misogyny ... enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it. - Guitartango
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  • fields5069fields5069 Frets: 2926
    I seem to be the only person left who pronounces ‘H’ as ‘aitch’.

    It’s appalling how much standards have fallen....
    I agree. It's even in the OED FFS, as plain as day - spelled just the way you have written it.

    "You should ask Haitch Arrr"
    "Who?"
    "You know, Haitch Arr"
    "Never heard of them"
    Some folks like water, some folks like wine.
    My feedback thread is here.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 18305
    I seem to be the only person left who pronounces ‘H’ as ‘aitch’.

    It’s appalling how much standards have fallen....
    I agree. It's even in the OED FFS, as plain as day - spelled just the way you have written it.

    "You should ask Haitch Arrr"
    "Who?"
    "You know, Haitch Arr"
    "Never heard of them"
    My favourite one I've heard lately is N.Haitch.S.

    It's amazing the effort some people will expend to get it wrong. 
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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 21250
    edited August 1
    p90fool said:
    I seem to be the only person left who pronounces ‘H’ as ‘aitch’.

    It’s appalling how much standards have fallen....
    I agree. It's even in the OED FFS, as plain as day - spelled just the way you have written it.

    "You should ask Haitch Arrr"
    "Who?"
    "You know, Haitch Arr"
    "Never heard of them"
    My favourite one I've heard lately is N.Haitch.S.

    It's amazing the effort some people will expend to get it wrong. 
    Given my surname isn’t exactly common, the number of times people spell it back to me: “Is that haitch, O, M, E, R?”

    No it f**king isn’t!
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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    p90fool said:
    I seem to be the only person left who pronounces ‘H’ as ‘aitch’.

    It’s appalling how much standards have fallen....
    I agree. It's even in the OED FFS, as plain as day - spelled just the way you have written it.

    "You should ask Haitch Arrr"
    "Who?"
    "You know, Haitch Arr"
    "Never heard of them"
    My favourite one I've heard lately is N.Haitch.S.

    It's amazing the effort some people will expend to get it wrong. 
    Given my surname isn’t exactly common, the number of times people spell it back to me: “Is that haitch....l?”

    No it f**king isn’t!
    Well I guess it comes from Omer anyway? So the heych is superfluous to start with ;)
    Misogyny ... enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it. - Guitartango
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  • KilgoreKilgore Frets: 3499


    It’s appalling how much standards have fallen....
    Hit sy witodlic
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 6840
    I seem to be the only person left who pronounces ‘H’ as ‘aitch’.

    It’s appalling how much standards have fallen....
    How the hell can you spend years in education and not know something as basic as this?

    What's worse is that those prone to using "haitch" are more likely not to pronounce the very same letter when it appears in a word.

    Flay their hides, I say. 
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 7279
    " can I refer back to yourself ?"
    Says it all really , I can see where the misunderstanding of the word refer comes from but what's all this "yourself " instead of "you" thing so beloved of call-centre morons ?
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  • LastMantraLastMantra Frets: 1103
    edited August 2
    Perf with surf.

    Making these words rhyme is wrong. 
    MYMUSIC

    I wanna be a door
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  • HeadphonesHeadphones Frets: 554
    My pet is "can I confirm your address?" - begging a yes or know answer in English, yet the twerps expect this to be answered as: "my adress is xxxx how kind of you to ask."

    Ignorance...
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 3133
    Not so much pronunciation as grammar but my biggest peeve is kids starting every other sentence with a completely unnecessary 'Wait...'

    Inherited from garbage American kids' TV programmes. 

    Awful.
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • strtdvstrtdv Frets: 1817
    zedhex said:
    Although the article confirms that actually when you apply the logic of the English language to that word, the inventor's argument breaks down.

    I prefer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chaos
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  • KeikoKeiko Frets: 302
    Youtube comments make no sense to me. Kids today are talking another language altogether. See stuff like this all the time:
     
    Nobody:
    Literally Nobody:
    Brian May: Yes

    What the hell is it supposed to mean?
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  • boogiemanboogieman Frets: 7314
    Hattigol said:
    Not so much pronunciation as grammar but my biggest peeve is kids starting every other sentence with a completely unnecessary 'Wait...'

    Inherited from garbage American kids' TV programmes. 

    Awful.
    Wis. Also “so” to start every sentence. Drives me nuts. 

    My wife pointed out that Kirsten, the ceramics lady in The Repair Shop, says “actually” all the time. It’s probably just a vocal tic, but once you notice it’s impossible to un-hear. 
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 18570
    My pet is "can I confirm your address?”
    You have a pet named “can I confirm your address?” ?
    WITH AN OWL!!
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  • gordijigordiji Frets: 361
    I seem to be the only person left who pronounces ‘H’ as ‘aitch’.

    It’s appalling how far standards have fallen....

    Your not alone. I still like whither, thither & whence :o
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  • ESBlondeESBlonde Frets: 3165
    There seems to be a trend or desire to adopt new language and appear "with it" as we used to say. The adoption of jamaican street slang or americanisms like "needs gone" or "needs fixed" which irritate me every time. I know my generation also had their hippy language that was groovy and right on man, 
    Is this just a case of old man shouts at cloud?
    Europe ( including the UK geographicly) is changing, in 75 years the white ancestral people will be predominantly old and irrelevant while the second generation immigrants will fuel the economy and language will be hard to recognise. We couldn't understand English of 5 centuries ago, things are just changing faster because of  electronic communication.
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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 6154
    edited August 2
    Showing my age here but when I was, I'd guess, maybe nine or ten my parents took me up to London to see The Black and White Minstrel Show (I'm embarrassed about this now but hey it wasn't my choice). Outside the theatre was a sign saying 'Black and White Minstrel Show - Pronounced Success'. As a youngster I honestly believed that this was a lesson on pronunciation.
    In my hand I hold a piece of perforated paper
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 6840
    gordiji said:

    Your not alone. I still like whither, thither & whence :o

    And pray what is wrong with hither?
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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 6154
    scrumhalf said:
    gordiji said:

    Your not alone. I still like whither, thither & whence :o

    And pray what is wrong with hither?
    Do you still wend your way to the local hostelry to quaff ale?
    In my hand I hold a piece of perforated paper
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 8314
    HAL9000 said:
    Showing my age here but when I was, I'd guess, maybe nine or ten, my parents took me up to London to see The Black and White Minstrel Show (I'm embarrassed about this now but hey it wasn't my choice). Outside the theatre was a sign saying 'Black and White Minstrel Show - Pronounced Success'. As a youngster I honestly believed that this was a lesson on pronunciation.
    Off topic, but I remember when I read Peter Pan there was a bit that said "if you read between the lines".  For some time after I thought reading between the lines of any printed matter was an actual technique which I was unable to master, no matter how much I screwed up my eyes.
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  • tony99tony99 Frets: 4240
    always worth bearing in mind in these discussions that there really isn't a correct English as such, just multiple varieties

    we don't have royal academies such as french or spanish that determine proper usage, even Queen's English or received pronunciation is just another variety


    Bollocks you don't know Bono !!
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 3133
    tony99 said:
    always worth bearing in mind in these discussions that there really isn't a correct English as such, just multiple varieties

    we don't have royal academies such as french or spanish that determine proper usage, even Queen's English or received pronunciation is just another variety


    True but I'm fairly sure that all varieties tend to capitalise the beginning of sentences and conclude them with a full stop?
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 12641
    HAL9000 said:
    scrumhalf said:
    gordiji said:

    Your not alone. I still like whither, thither & whence :o

    And pray what is wrong with hither?
    Do you still wend your way to the local hostelry to quaff ale?
    Not these days, old chap. Haven’t you heard, there’s a bit of a flap on.


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  • merlinmerlin Frets: 2983
    edited August 2
    The term "awesome" to describe pizza or a song (or a guitar) really drives me up the wall.

    Another thing that disturbs me is "no problem" when I thank someone. Why suggest that there's a problem in the first place?

    Worse still, "I'll just double check". Please just check once, or better still, just go and have a look. 
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