Caution - dont buy modded guitars

blueskunk

Nice now

WezV

At the end of the day its hidden and doesn't affect functionality, other than needing some shims under the pickups.  the seller should have been a bit more honest, most would have avoided if they had seen the pic and the seller knew this.

have a look at this ebay listing, scroll through the pics in the actual listing

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1988-A-C-Zemaitis-Hand-Made-Set-Neck-Guitar-Case-Certified-Genuine-/251577797881?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3a93348cf9

Doesn't stop me lusting after it. although i would rather have this one I expect it looks the same under the hood

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-ZEMAITIS-CUSTOM-Metal-Top-VINTAGE-ORIGINAL-Electric-Guitar-8-5-Gibson-Case-/201113184276?pt=Guitar&hash=item2ed347a814

Loobs

Ouch. That was a bit crafty. 

Cool guitar, though. 

57Deluxe

...is prob why he sold it too... bugged the shit outta him!

meltedbuzzbox

ICBM said:

Seriously, how could you imagine that a Jag that's been fitted with humbuckers would be 'reversible'? (Assuming they weren't single-coil-sized, like Duncan Rails or JB Jr etc.)

Even assuming the neatest possible job of fitting them, it's never going to be reversible, because it can't be done in the first place without routing.

And if something can't be done without routing, you have to assume that sort of workmanship - or worse - until proven otherwise...

... and there really is worse! If you don't believe someone could do such a hamfisted job on a £1500 guitar, you probably haven't seen some of the horrors professional repairers get asked to put right .

maybe my choice of wording is a little off by using the word reversible.

If you look at this picture, a jag pickup should still be able to be fitted into the bridge position as the width of the routing is still intact

I was hoping for something similar.

and if we are getting technical I did manage to reverse the buckers with the help of some pine :-P

EdGrip

Sounds like you got a great guitar at a bargain price.

strtdv

meltedbuzzbox;293530" said:

@strtdv Jag pickups are actually mounted straight to the body that is why I had to fill in the craters with wood. ;-)

Ah, didn't realise this. I'm sure it still make minimal difference to the tone. To be fair though an AVRI would need to have some very poor mods to not be worth £500, it's still a good deal.

Seems to be that if it seems too good to be true, it usually is. I bought a partscaster on the old harmony central forums that was very cheap (under £200 with a MIM classic player neck, 2 piece ash might mite body, and humbucker bridge/P90 neck). When it arrived there were a few marks on the body that the seller hadn't mentioned, and the pickups were wired incorrectly. I fixed it up, but didn't bond with it, sold it for a profit.

Gagaryn

ICBM said:

Seriously, how could you imagine that a Jag that's been fitted with humbuckers would be 'reversible'? (Assuming they weren't single-coil-sized, like Duncan Rails or JB Jr etc.)

It was reversible - 10 minutes with a chisel and a dremel, and some off cuts of wood and the single coils can be refitted. Scratchplate back on and the repair is invisible. And you have a cracking guitar for a budget price.

FX_Munkee

<shrugs> I always assumed that's why god invented scratchplates, to hide the unholy mess that I made of the routing.

Anyway, Dremels, they're brilliant aren't they?

stevenguitars

''and assured me it was reversible''

well you did reverse it . lol

gusman2x

Yeah, wouldn't really have expected much different to be honest. How did the seller respond when you took it up with him?

ICBM

Gagaryn said:

It was reversible - 10 minutes with a chisel and a dremel, and some off cuts of wood and the single coils can be refitted. Scratchplate back on and the repair is invisible.

Invisible (from the outside!) and reversible aren't the same thing .

It may well be a great guitar now, but it can never be put back to how it was originally no matter what you do and hence is not reversible.

That may not matter to some people, but it was dishonest to describe it as such.

strtdv

At least they didn't do a Fender "swimming pool" route. 

This is how USA made strats (excluding reissues) came pre-1998:

Even now, the majority come with a "universal" HSH route rather than an SSS route

meltedbuzzbox

strtdv;294123" said:

At least they didn't do a Fender "swimming pool" route. 

This is how USA made strats (excluding reissues) came pre-1998:





Even now, the majority come with a "universal" HSH route rather than an SSS route

Jesus, they even made that one the wrong way round...

ThePrettyDamned

I'd love a swimming pool route strat.

ICBM

ThePrettyDamned said:

I'd love a swimming pool route strat.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/30/a8/9b30a8984c865f0f7d69343d91638e36.jpg

ThePrettyDamned

ICBM;294194" said:

[quote=ThePrettyDamned]
I'd love a swimming pool route strat.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9b/30/a8/9b30a8984c865f0f7d69343d91638e36.jpg[/quote]

Sorry, yeah it was a typo.

I want a strat route swimming pool.

meltedbuzzbox

gusman2x said:

Yeah, wouldn't really have expected much different to be honest. How did the seller respond when you took it up with him?

I haven't took it up with him, being in the US and all the rest of the shenanigans involved its a bit of a lost cause.

However if you are on OSG and someone called gutterrock is selling a Jag you know what questions to ask ;-)

Gagaryn

ICBM said:

Gagaryn said:

It was reversible - 10 minutes with a chisel and a dremel, and some off cuts of wood and the single coils can be refitted. Scratchplate back on and the repair is invisible.

Invisible (from the outside!) and reversible aren't the same thing .

It may well be a great guitar now, but it can never be put back to how it was originally no matter what you do and hence is not reversible.

That may not matter to some people, but it was dishonest to describe it as such.

Original (on the inside!) and reversible aren't the same thing. ;-)

The seller claimed it was reversible - i.e. that single coils could be refitted instead of the replacement humbuckers. And they have - so it was. :-)

No claims of originality or 'mintytude' were made as far as I know. In the same way as it was obvious that the scratchplate had bigger holes in it than it used to, it was obvious that the body would be affected too. Granted, it wasn't the neatest job but it doesn't really matter as it's hidden.

JD50

I wonder how many router bits were used, given the scorch marks the first bit must have blunt on first pass....... That's if they knew what they were supposed to be doing, clearly they didn't. Looks like they guessed the depth locked up and plunged to the bottom.

Easy enough to square up and drop a couple blocks in if you want to do it properly. Either way a great guitar for the money you paid regardless of the routes.