WTB Pre CBS Fender Stratocaster/Telecaster

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Long shot, any decent ones out there that haven’t been molested through the 80’s with floyd rose trems and humbuckers scattered throughout? 
Sunburst ideally for a strat, custom colours are out of my price range, may consider refin if it’s otherwise original.
Thanks 
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  • KDSKDS Frets: 142
    watching this thread with interest...... Good luck :)
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  • JonDixon35JonDixon35 Frets: 23
    KDS said:
    watching this thread with interest...... Good luck :)
    Cheers, it’s a bit of a mine field out there but would be nice to find a private sale from a seller who
    knows the guitars history. Let’s see what crops up, if anything. 
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  • MikeSMikeS Frets: 1329
    @JonDixon35 what's your budget?
    Cheers,

    Mike.


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  • KDSKDS Frets: 142
    KDS said:
    watching this thread with interest...... Good luck :)
    Cheers, it’s a bit of a mine field out there but would be nice to find a private sale from a seller who
    knows the guitars history. Let’s see what crops up, if anything. 
    There is a lot of info on here, it puts me off even looking around at one
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  • Most of the good ones have been sold for parts

    And

    Most of the bad ones have been put together with parts.


    But good luck with your search :-) 
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  • KDSKDS Frets: 142
    edited January 7
    Most of the good ones have been sold for parts

    And

    Most of the bad ones have been put together with parts.


    But good luck with your search :-) 
    A good mate of mine has two original 62 strat's and a 63 tele... I was lucky enough to buy an original 62 Jag, it is a mine field, but possible
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  • paul111spaul111s Frets: 67
    I sold my 63 Strat on here and it was stripped for parts, if I’d of known I would of been reluctant to sell it. 
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  • KDSKDS Frets: 142
    paul111s said:
    I sold my 63 Strat on here and it was stripped for parts, if I’d of known I would of been reluctant to sell it. 
    hm to me that's history being taken away
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  • JonDixon35JonDixon35 Frets: 23
    MikeS said:
    @JonDixon35 what's your budget?
    I suppose it depends on what’s available. I’ve got a number of guitars I could part with if more funds are needed along with cash already. I’d rather not sell the guitars if I don’t have to, happy to though if something really catches my eye. 
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  • JonDixon35JonDixon35 Frets: 23

    KDS said:
    Most of the good ones have been sold for parts

    And

    Most of the bad ones have been put together with parts.


    But good luck with your search :-) 
    A good mate of mine has two original 62 strat's and a 63 tele... I was lucky enough to buy an original 62 Jag, it is a mine field, but possible
    Agreed. There are some great ones out there, it’s just finding someone willing to part with it. The idea of stripping something with such history is a terrible thought 
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 4386
    You know a Custom Shop would be way better in every respect, right?
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • Apart from history and playability, if you find a good one ;-) 
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 4386
    Apart from history and playability, if you find a good one ;-) 
    Might find some smoke and mirrors in the case too. Next to the mojo, just behind the snake oil!
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • JonDixon35JonDixon35 Frets: 23
    Hattigol said:I
    You know a Custom Shop would be way better in every respect, right?
    I’ve had a number of custom shop strats and teles, some great and some ok. I’m sure there are not so good pre cbs guitars out there too, I’m in no rush so happy to hold out for a good one. 
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  • GuyRGuyR Frets: 970
    I bought a fabulous l series 65 Strat via contacts from this site in June last year. Better than any CS I have played. Checked out fine on specialist inspection. Price very reasonable. 60s Strats not that uncommon, particularly sunburst. Of course you have to be careful and buy with an approval period. A genuine seller will be confident enough to agree that. Or buy from one of the universally approved dealers like Richard Henry or Gary 
    Winterflood. Not that they are the only ones.

    A player with minor changes was fine for me, so long as the pickups and finishes are original. Having a dilemma over refretting or switch replacing an otherwise pristine original is not a position I want to pay a premium to be in - I'm always going to choose having the guitar playing properly. The longer you own it, the more likely intrusive maintenance becomes. There can never be a guarantee whatever you buy does not have age correct replacement parts like tuners or saddles, where swaps can be made without detection, unlike switches or pickups where resoldering is a telltale, or finish work.

    I have a 65 CAR, where I learnt after years of ownership that a previous owner had changed the green pick guard for an age correct white one. Do I care? He was able to demonstrate with old photos the worn finish, which I was confident of, was unchanged since 1995, when fakes were rarer and give details of previous auspicious owners. Assume there are at least minor changes and price accordingly.

    Good luck with the search. Good vintage is very rewarding.
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  • JonDixon35JonDixon35 Frets: 23
    GuyR said:
    I bought a fabulous l series 65 Strat via contacts from this site in June last year. Better than any CS I have played. Checked out fine on specialist inspection. Price very reasonable. 60s Strats not that uncommon, particularly sunburst. Of course you have to be careful and buy with an approval period. A genuine seller will be confident enough to agree that. Or buy from one of the universally approved dealers like Richard Henry or Gary 
    Winterflood. Not that they are the only ones.

    A player with minor changes was fine for me, so long as the pickups and finishes are original. Having a dilemma over refretting or switch replacing an otherwise pristine original is not a position I want to pay a premium to be in - I'm always going to choose having the guitar playing properly. The longer you own it, the more likely intrusive maintenance becomes. There can never be a guarantee whatever you buy does not have age correct replacement parts like tuners or saddles, where swaps can be made without detection, unlike switches or pickups where resoldering is a telltale, or finish work.

    I have a 65 CAR, where I learnt after years of ownership that a previous owner had changed the green pick guard for an age correct white one. Do I care? He was able to demonstrate with old photos the worn finish, which I was confident of, was unchanged since 1995, when fakes were rarer and give details of previous auspicious owners. Assume there are at least minor changes and price accordingly.

    Good luck with the search. Good vintage is very rewarding.
    Thanks for your advice GuyR.
     I also picked up a 65 last year and feel that it’s just a great guitar to play and I want to pick it up, something I often don’t get from custom shop guitars.
    I’ve got guitars that are practical, nice but practical. These 60’s ones aren’t always about practicality but about a want for an old, well travelled guitar that feels right when you pick it up. 
    Glad you got a good one, let the search commence, again. 
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  • GuyRGuyR Frets: 970
    edited January 7
    GuyR said:
    I bought a fabulous l series 65 Strat via contacts from this site in June last year. Better than any CS I have played. Checked out fine on specialist inspection. Price very reasonable. 60s Strats not that uncommon, particularly sunburst. Of course you have to be careful and buy with an approval period. A genuine seller will be confident enough to agree that. Or buy from one of the universally approved dealers like Richard Henry or Gary 
    Winterflood. Not that they are the only ones.

    A player with minor changes was fine for me, so long as the pickups and finishes are original. Having a dilemma over refretting or switch replacing an otherwise pristine original is not a position I want to pay a premium to be in - I'm always going to choose having the guitar playing properly. The longer you own it, the more likely intrusive maintenance becomes. There can never be a guarantee whatever you buy does not have age correct replacement parts like tuners or saddles, where swaps can be made without detection, unlike switches or pickups where resoldering is a telltale, or finish work.

    I have a 65 CAR, where I learnt after years of ownership that a previous owner had changed the green pick guard for an age correct white one. Do I care? He was able to demonstrate with old photos the worn finish, which I was confident of, was unchanged since 1995, when fakes were rarer and give details of previous auspicious owners. Assume there are at least minor changes and price accordingly.

    Good luck with the search. Good vintage is very rewarding.
    Thanks for your advice GuyR.
     I also picked up a 65 last year and feel that it’s just a great guitar to play and I want to pick it up, something I often don’t get from custom shop guitars.
    I’ve got guitars that are practical, nice but practical. These 60’s ones aren’t always about practicality but about a want for an old, well travelled guitar that feels right when you pick it up. 
    Glad you got a good one, let the search commence, again. 
     "again" the perfect word in his context
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  • JonDixon35JonDixon35 Frets: 23
    GuyR said:
    GuyR said:
    I bought a fabulous l series 65 Strat via contacts from this site in June last year. Better than any CS I have played. Checked out fine on specialist inspection. Price very reasonable. 60s Strats not that uncommon, particularly sunburst. Of course you have to be careful and buy with an approval period. A genuine seller will be confident enough to agree that. Or buy from one of the universally approved dealers like Richard Henry or Gary 
    Winterflood. Not that they are the only ones.

    A player with minor changes was fine for me, so long as the pickups and finishes are original. Having a dilemma over refretting or switch replacing an otherwise pristine original is not a position I want to pay a premium to be in - I'm always going to choose having the guitar playing properly. The longer you own it, the more likely intrusive maintenance becomes. There can never be a guarantee whatever you buy does not have age correct replacement parts like tuners or saddles, where swaps can be made without detection, unlike switches or pickups where resoldering is a telltale, or finish work.

    I have a 65 CAR, where I learnt after years of ownership that a previous owner had changed the green pick guard for an age correct white one. Do I care? He was able to demonstrate with old photos the worn finish, which I was confident of, was unchanged since 1995, when fakes were rarer and give details of previous auspicious owners. Assume there are at least minor changes and price accordingly.

    Good luck with the search. Good vintage is very rewarding.
    Thanks for your advice GuyR.
     I also picked up a 65 last year and feel that it’s just a great guitar to play and I want to pick it up, something I often don’t get from custom shop guitars.
    I’ve got guitars that are practical, nice but practical. These 60’s ones aren’t always about practicality but about a want for an old, well travelled guitar that feels right when you pick it up. 
    Glad you got a good one, let the search commence, again. 
     "again" the perfect word in his context
    The search is all part of the fun
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  • BahHumbugBahHumbug Frets: 210
    edited January 7
    MikeS said:
    @JonDixon35 what's your budget?
    I suppose it depends on what’s available. I’ve got a number of guitars I could part with if more funds are needed along with cash already. I’d rather not sell the guitars if I don’t have to, happy to though if something really catches my eye. 
    Ok, more vaguely then, is your budget for players grade or investment grade?  I only ask because there’s a noticeable difference.
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  • JonDixon35JonDixon35 Frets: 23
    BahHumbug said:
    MikeS said:
    @JonDixon35 what's your budget?
    I suppose it depends on what’s available. I’ve got a number of guitars I could part with if more funds are needed along with cash already. I’d rather not sell the guitars if I don’t have to, happy to though if something really catches my eye. 
    Ok, more vaguely then, is your budget for players grade or investment grade?  I only ask because there’s a noticeable difference.
    I’m after original finish ideally, not looking for mint but with minimal changes, maybe a pot or the 3 way. Refret is fine and expected. Original case is a bonus, much preferred. If a refin came up I wouldn’t say no straight away, depending on the rest of it and price of course. A well used, original would be perfect. Not mint but minimal alterations. 
    Pretty vague still I know, but there aren’t hundreds out there for sale so I’d be daft to rule things out straight away. 
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  • BahHumbugBahHumbug Frets: 210
    I don’t wish to be difficult, but in your OP you say that “custom colours are way out of your price range”.  On the other hand you’re not willing to suggest what that price range is.  You're asking people to offer up guitars in a price range which could be anywhere between 6k and 20k or more. It might be helpful to meet halfway with just a ballpark figure.  
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  • photekphotek Frets: 1141
    Would it not be better to just stop commenting on this post unless you have a Pre CBS Strat and let the OP figure that out with a potential seller?
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  • JonDixon35JonDixon35 Frets: 23
    BahHumbug said:
    I don’t wish to be difficult, but in your OP you say that “custom colours are way out of your price range”.  On the other hand you’re not willing to suggest what that price range is.  You're asking people to offer up guitars in a price range which could be anywhere between 6k and 20k or more. It might be helpful to meet halfway with just a ballpark figure.  
    I understand your concern with my request, it’s a pretty vague one. If you’ve got an instrument that fits my pretty vague criteria, I’m all ears. 
    In essence, I have between £6k and £20k to spend if that’s your question. However, that doesn’t mean I intend on spending that amount. A custom colour strat can be way more than £20k, with some people asking £20k for a clean sunburst slab. 
    My OP was intended to see what’s out there, ranging from refin to probably too clean for my liking. I think you’re over thinking this a bit, but I appreciate your comments. 
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  • And the hunt continues. 
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  • Tadragh1Tadragh1 Frets: 63
    There is one for sale in Poland currently, from a reputable seller. The price... well. It is advertised on Reverb, too, so you might have seen it, @JonDixon35. Still, getting in touch with the guy can't hurt.
    https://reverb.com/item/37930411-fender-stratocaster-1962-sunburst
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  • greggreg66greggreg66 Frets: 275
    edited January 12
    I noticed a few at The North American Guitar, if that helps. I'm sure you've probably seen those though

    Edit: Sorry.... for some reason I thought they were in London! Looks like it's Nashville. Sorry!
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  • Tadragh1 said:
    There is one for sale in Poland currently, from a reputable seller. The price... well. It is advertised on Reverb, too, so you might have seen it, @JonDixon35. Still, getting in touch with the guy can't hurt.
    https://reverb.com/item/37930411-fender-stratocaster-1962-sunburst
    Thanks for the heads up. That’s a pricey number, beautiful but I’m priced out I’m afraid. 
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  • I noticed a few at The North American Guitar, if that helps. I'm sure you've probably seen those though

    Edit: Sorry.... for some reason I thought they were in London! Looks like it's Nashville. Sorry!
    A trip to Nashville might be the only answer, I’m sure the wife would love that
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  • DB1DB1 Frets: 2887
    They'll get it over here for you and delivered to you, and you then have a fairly miserly 72 hours to decide if you want to keep it.
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