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No Time To Die - WITH SPOILERS!!

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  • SnapSnap Frets: 6256
    edited October 2021
    exocet said:
    I watched it last night in one of those small boutiquey Everyman Screens - only 50 comfy sofa seats - served up with a very large glass of Merlot. I enjoyed it (don't watch many films at Cinema anyway) - I grew up with Bond, completely get that in the main they are either a bit of a "cheese fest" or fail to match the Bourne type action series for thrills and spills or that the more they try to match up, the less "Bond" they feel. That said, 163 mins flew by - emerging from Cinema at midnight feeling content.

    I was a little surprised that Jaguar Landrover ( who I assume paid money for product placement / association with the film?) allowed so many of their Range Rovers to be bounced off so easily by a tatty old Toyota Landcruiser? I mean we all know that that's what would happen in real life but even so, as a manufacturer paying money, I'd want my menacing 4WD bouncing everyone else's off the road?
    Land Rover have produced a 007 version of their Defender. It's very mean looking, has a V8 engine and is yours for a snip at about 100k. Comes complete with 007 badging too. Dunno if it can take on a Landcruiser though.

    How knobby is that?

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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 22516
    Speaking of product placement, I was quite surprised to see 007 with a Nokia phone.  I didn't know they even made smartphones any more (...I don't know much about smartphones at all, to be honest).
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  • exocetexocet Frets: 1948
    edited October 2021
    Philly_Q said:
    Speaking of product placement, I was quite surprised to see 007 with a Nokia phone.  I didn't know they even made smartphones any more (...I don't know much about smartphones at all, to be honest).
    Yes, they are "back" with Android based devices.

    https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_gb/smartphones 

    Can't remember whether these are from the original handset division of Nokia which was acquired by Microsoft and subsequently dropped or from the Nokia Networking equipment division which was always at their core.
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  • I saw it  the first weekend it was out and really enjoyed it at the time but the plot niggles are still with me.
    The biggest problem for me was the villain, his motives and how his weapon of mass destruction could also be made so bespoke that it would only affect Bond's partner and daughter. 
    Felt reverse engineered and a bit forced.  Might have been better to tie up all the loose ends of Craig's tenure over two films

    Plenty of characters that I would like to see more of in the next installments. Loved the score, all the cars, the eye-popping watch.



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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 14029
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    Went last night - Had those fold down comfy lounge style seats - Somewhat surprisingly I had heard nothing of the ending at all - So earlier in the movie, when he was driving the Aston Martin (B plate), thru the mountain roads, with Madeleine and you had a brief hint of the 'we have all the time in the world song' I just assumed at this stage we were in for a repeat of a marriage, then death, as per On Her Majesty's Secret Service - So with Bond dying, it totally surprised me - But the car, mountain road and song had me already for a sad ending - So a neat twist on a previous story line

    Went with my daughter - She is 19 - So on the way home I had to give her a touch of a Bond history lesson as she only knew Spectre from the more recent movie, ditto Blofeld, the We have all the time in the world song, his 1st marriage and indeed the previous links with Felix 
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  • Saw it today.  Simply overlong and a bit tedious.  No chemistry whatsoever between Bond and his wife.  Script tedious
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  • Just got back from seeing this. Better than Spectre but not hard to be. Decent film, poor villain, shock ending. As some have said what’s the point in killing him as they’ll reboot the character again but I suspect it is symbolic. The Bond we’ve known for however many films (25 is it?) is dead. I don’t think we’ll see a womanising chauvinistic lead Bond again, I think they’ll update (ruin) the character for the 21st century, hire some young unheard of guy to play Bond and he won’t have the same traits. I don’t think they killed James Bond, they killed our James Bond to make way for the future.

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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 22516
    As some have said what’s the point in killing him as they’ll reboot the character again but I suspect it is symbolic. The Bond we’ve known for however many films (25 is it?) is dead. I don’t think we’ll see a womanising chauvinistic lead Bond again, I think they’ll update (ruin) the character for the 21st century, hire some young unheard of guy to play Bond and he won’t have the same traits. I don’t think they killed James Bond, they killed our James Bond to make way for the future.
    I hadn't thought of it like that, to me the symbolism didn't go any further than killing off the Daniel Craig incarnation of Bond... but you could be right.  I suspect, though, that they haven't planned anything so specific, I think they'll try to gauge the public mood when they come to make the next film.
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  • AK99AK99 Frets: 1563
    edited October 2021
    Saw it tonight and was pretty disappointed. Thought they had got back on track with the last one, but this was a bit sh*te really. Got a giggle with the DB6 doing its stuff diffing round in circles strafing the bad guys - but a lack-lustre plot with not very convincing baddies, 2nd rate copies of some of the great car/bike chases of previous films, all ending with an overly long shoot-em-up scene in perhaps the most unconvincing weapons of mass destruction plant shot in and around another submarine pen. A half arsed lazy pastiche of some of the Bond greats. Cmon Cubby man, we deserved much better.

    . Loved the score, all the cars, the eye-popping watch.


    The eye-popping watch that can take out every electrical/electronic circuit within range - but somehow manages not to act upon the adjacent electronic earpiece embedded in Bond's ear and blow his brain apart that is ?


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  • the_jaffathe_jaffa Frets: 1777
    Philly_Q said:
    Felix Leiter also died in one of the Dalton films I think.
    Licence to Kill.  He gets chewed up by a shark(!) but doesn't actually die.


    “He disagreed with something that ate him”

    One of my very favourite Bond lines. 
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  • There's been a fan theory for ages that "James Bond" is a codename assigned to a 00 agent and not the name of the man himself. It explains why every few years a different guy turns up calling himself James Bond, but comes unstuck at a couple of points- subsequent Bonds after Lazenby remember "their" wife being murdered in OHMSS, and Skyfall and Spectre both present serious problems to the theory. It's a way to handwave a new Bond in a few years' time though.

    As some have said what’s the point in killing him as they’ll reboot the character again but I suspect it is symbolic. The Bond we’ve known for however many films (25 is it?) is dead. I don’t think we’ll see a womanising chauvinistic lead Bond again, I think they’ll update (ruin) the character for the 21st century, hire some young unheard of guy to play Bond and he won’t have the same traits. I don’t think they killed James Bond, they killed our James Bond to make way for the future.
    Ha. If you think it's been the same Bond for 25 films you haven't watched many of them recently. Where's the early 60s Bond who hits women? Where's the Moore era Bond who shags like five different women in every film? The franchise has changed as much as it's stayed the same, and it will continue to do so as long as there's money left on the table. If you thought the one-woman-man Bond in No Time To Die was "our" Bond I don't think you'll have any problems with the new one.

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • Had our niece staying for the weekend, so took her to see it tonight - so my second viewing.

    Well, I gotta say I thought it even better second time round. In fact, I reckon it stands up with Casino Royale as one of the best in the franchise. All the classic action, plot and cliche drivers, plus some sentimental stuff thrown in too.

    I may be in a club of one though…
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  • Ha. If you think it's been the same Bond for 25 films you haven't watched many of them recently. Where's the early 60s Bond who hits women? Where's the Moore era Bond who shags like five different women in every film? The franchise has changed as much as it's stayed the same, and it will continue to do so as long as there's money left on the table. If you thought the one-woman-man Bond in No Time To Die was "our" Bond I don't think you'll have any problems with the new one.
    Yes but I'm talking about revolution, not evolution. Of course the character has evolved over the years in line with societal attitudes and expectations. Daniel Craig's bond was the biggest evolution of the series. But he was still what I would call 'our Bond' in essence. . He still assumes women are his for the taking, like the married woman in Casino Royale (Solange?). So he was a one woman man in the end? Big whoop, Bond had Diana Rigg back in the day. I think we're about to see a complete revolution, a total changing of the character from what we know and expect. Rather than playing catchup to 21st century values I think they'll want to be right at the forefront.

    I wouldn't mind seeing it again @SPECTRUM001 - I feel it may be one that grows on people over time. I was bored of the Spectre thing and Blofeld so maybe didn't engage with the film properly. I thought it was better than Spectre (not hard) and on a par with Skyfall, but a second viewing could change that.


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  • Yes but I'm talking about revolution, not evolution. Of course the character has evolved over the years in line with societal attitudes and expectations. Daniel Craig's bond was the biggest evolution of the series. But he was still what I would call 'our Bond' in essence. . He still assumes women are his for the taking, like the married woman in Casino Royale (Solange?). So he was a one woman man in the end? Big whoop, Bond had Diana Rigg back in the day. I think we're about to see a complete revolution, a total changing of the character from what we know and expect. Rather than playing catchup to 21st century values I think they'll want to be right at the forefront.


    I'd like to think that if the rights owners have managed to keep Bond as popular as they have for fifty years they'd have more sense than to do that, but we'll see...

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • dazzajldazzajl Frets: 5653
    Yes but I'm talking about revolution, not evolution. Of course the character has evolved over the years in line with societal attitudes and expectations. Daniel Craig's bond was the biggest evolution of the series. But he was still what I would call 'our Bond' in essence. . He still assumes women are his for the taking, like the married woman in Casino Royale (Solange?). So he was a one woman man in the end? Big whoop, Bond had Diana Rigg back in the day. I think we're about to see a complete revolution, a total changing of the character from what we know and expect. Rather than playing catchup to 21st century values I think they'll want to be right at the forefront.


    I'd like to think that if the rights owners have managed to keep Bond as popular as they have for fifty years they'd have more sense than to do that, but we'll see...
    Keeping the character popular and keeping it popular with you or I are not at all the same thing. 

    I have no idea where they’ll go next with the franchise. I think it feels like a perfect time to leave it for a while but while there’s money to be made, I’m sure they’ll keep going. 
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  • english_bobenglish_bob Frets: 5128
    edited October 2021
    dazzajl said:
    Keeping the character popular and keeping it popular with you or I are not at all the same thing. 
    Fair point, although I suspect "fortysomething white guy" is squarely where they'll be aiming the next one.

    I think the "go woke, go broke" crowd vastly overstate their case, but I do think there's a danger that overcompensating for Bond's 60s throwback politics in any way that looks like pandering to "woke lefties" (eyeroll) will put off more potential moviegoers than it attracts. Audiences know what they're getting from a Bond movie, and might not be kind to one that doesn't deliver what they paid for.

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • HootsmonHootsmon Frets: 15924
    Saw it today and thought it was a BIG slice of ham and campy too......still enjoyed though

    Stunned at ending it thought it was rather charming to hear a 10 year old sobbing at the end in the seats next tae me ...reminded of my 1st time crying at the movies......a moment he shall never forget...nice
    tae be or not tae be
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  • AK99AK99 Frets: 1563
    edited October 2021
    ^ Funny, despite thinking most of the film wasn't great, I too found seeing our man Bond finally checking out after so many years touching. End of an epoch that - for me - stretched back to first seeing Sean Connery (and that DB5) on the big screen (well there was only one) in the Antrim Cinema as a kid. I'll miss him
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 22516
    James Bond Will Return.
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  • JerkMoansJerkMoans Frets: 8774
    edited October 2021
    Just got in from seeing it. Fucking hell. Thought it was GREAT. Could pick holes in various bits but a cracking adventure from start to finish, modern takes with nods to old tropes, and a human side to our newly revealed dad.

    Probably slightly over-enthused by it being (but for the Greta Thunberg documentary) the first thing I’ve seen at the cinema in about 2 years.

    Bollocks to him being dead. Reckon he used his magic watch to neutralise the nearest missiles, or some equal nonsense.

    Oh, and perhaps Toyota paid more than Land Rover…
    Inactivist Lefty Lawyer
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