So what's this then?

BigPaulie

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125288797362?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=EiqxsyvNQ1-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=7UozzOPoQBO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Nothing to do with me, but it doesn't look quite right.

ICBM

It's a steel stringed dreadnought acoustic guitar.

But not a Gibson.

bertie

as a side note,   I wonder what is the deciding factor for when a bridge has the narrow bit towards the sound hole and when its towards the end 

Tannin

Surely this is a fraud in progress.

ICBM

bertie said:

as a side note,   I wonder what is the deciding factor for when a bridge has the narrow bit towards the sound hole and when its towards the end

From a physics point of view, the one that looks “odd” because it’s by far the less common way of doing it, is in fact better - it distributes the force more evenly across the top.

WezV

ICBM said:

bertie said:

as a side note,   I wonder what is the deciding factor for when a bridge has the narrow bit towards the sound hole and when its towards the end

From a physics point of view, the one that looks “odd” because it’s by far the less common way of doing it, is in fact better - it distributes the force more evenly across the top.

but it is also more likely to split along the pin holes

bertie

WezV said:

ICBM said:

bertie said:

as a side note,   I wonder what is the deciding factor for when a bridge has the narrow bit towards the sound hole and when its towards the end

From a physics point of view, the one that looks “odd” because it’s by far the less common way of doing it, is in fact better - it distributes the force more evenly across the top.

but it is also more likely to split along the pin holes

less wood "behind"  them ?    

drofluf

bertie said:

as a side note,   I wonder what is the deciding factor for when a bridge has the narrow bit towards the sound hole and when its towards the end 

Think it depends on which side the slot for the saddle has been cut. My preference is for the slot to be closer to the sound hole. 

HTH

DavidR

Call me Mr. Stupid from Stupidville but why is this not a Hummingbird with no pickguard? Never owned a Hummingbird but have hankered after one and would be genuinely interested to know what gives this away as a fake. Only Gibson I have ever had was a Gibson Mark 35.

Give me a list, correct my cosmic ignorance, and make me clever - or I might turn into a pumpkin!

:-)

bertie

due to the bridge being "reversed"  -  is this one a fake then ?  
https://reverb.com/item/52629304-gibson-hummingbird-1974-natural?bk=

TheMadMick

bertie said:

due to the bridge being "reversed"  -  is this one a fake then ?  
https://reverb.com/item/52629304-gibson-hummingbird-1974-natural?bk=

Don't care. At £2899.00 it's not a bargain.

Mellish

I've had two Hummingbirds, neither had that soundhole purfling IIRC or that binding around the edges.

I would also not expect to get a genuine 'Bird (Standard, Custom or Pro) for that price  

Mellish

@bertie ; Hummingbirds have a reversed bridge IIRC. I'm trying to remember back to the mid 70s when I had mine.

But you wouldn't get a Hummingbird for £155. Or if you could, it would have picked up some serious issues  

bertie

@mellish ; -  yes mate, I meant "reversed from their normal"  not "reversed from everyone elses normal"    - so its a fake ?

BigPaulie

I don't know for sure, but the things that made me suspicious were the abalone rosette, number of binding plies, and what looks to be a scarfed headstock.

Mellish

@BigPaulie ; yep, I don't recall abalone around the soundhole. I'm fairly sure it wasn't there. I'd honestly pass on it mate  

Mellish

@bertie ; I'd say you'd be unwise to buy it believing  it's a Gibson, put it that way  

bertie

Mellish said:

@bertie ; I'd say you'd be unwise to buy it believing  it's a Gibson, put it that way  

Id be unwise cos its a Dread     

LOL

DavidR

Just done interweb trawl. Yep. Abalone around soundhole alone would be unique for a Gibson Hummingbird (without looking through all the images on Google anyway!). There are such Hummingbirds but they always seem to have abalone purfling too.

And then there's the cost too. Although people don't always know what they're doing. I don't. :-)

 Interesting.

BigPaulie

Also interesting is the fact that the guitar is not listed as a Gibson, and the word "Gibson" is conspicuously absent from the description.

Mellish

The split parallelogram inlays might suggest Gibson to some, though that may not have been the intention of the builder.

In any event, it isn't