Broken headstock repair - Scotland

Dan_Halen

WezV said:

That will go back together well and shouldnt need any additional splnts or backstraps.. just a glue and touch up.   Shouldn't be too noticeable with that finish either since it's nice and dark

I doubt the guitar will be much different after.   Some claim they get better after a break.  This a bit far, but there is no reason to expect it to be worse if repaired professionally 

That's really useful to know cheers.

FelineGuitars

Id suggest Chris McIntyre guitars in Edinburgh as others have, but we would be happy to look after it as well , but then you have the hassle and extra cost of shipping it and ensuring that it is safely packed to get to us safely and so we can return it safely too.

Dan_Halen

FelineGuitars said:

Id suggest Chris McIntyre guitars in Edinburgh as others have, but we would be happy to look after it as well , but then you have the hassle and extra cost of shipping it and ensuring that it is safely packed to get to us safely and so we can return it safely too.

Cheers, appreciated! You were the first I thought of and I'd absolutely be heading your way if it wasn't for having to ship it the length of the country. I've messaged the Guitar Workshop to see what they say and will speak to Chris as well as I can drive to both, but if it's not going well there I'll be in touch.

jonnyburgo

On the plus side it looks like a good long break, plenty to stick together. 

Roundwound

David Anthony Reid is based in Scotland (Perth) now and could also be a good shout. Usually has a shorter waiting time due to location and not being as well known locally. https://www.darluthier.com/

Rowby1

Just to try and cheer you up, did this to one of my Les Paul’s a few years ago. It didn’t have any negative effects on the guitar at all. I’m sure your Maybach will still sound and feel great when it’s fixed. 

Dan_Halen

Thanks again for all the suggestions and the positive comments chaps! Hoping as well that because the break is not in the ‘playing zone’ and it’s pretty clean it’s going to be fairly straightforward. I’ll put some pics up and update when I get it back in due course.

fendermadlewis

As @Roundwound suggested, I've used David Anthony Read before (he was perth based, but I've been living in England for a long time so he might have moved). Absolute meticulous work..

Koa

https://www.markburnetguitars.co.uk/ another option based in East Lothian near Edinburgh 

Creed_Clicks

Out of curiosity, with a neck break like that, does the wood "lose" something when it is glued back together? e.g. lose a bit of strength through the neck as it is not one piece of wood anymore, though I would imagine a lot of entry level guitars don't have one piece necks and work just fine. The glue must be REALLY strong then to keep it all in place?

SteveRobinson

The glue join is generally stronger than the wood.

I repaired a Les Paul Firebrand *THREE times. Each time it broke in a different place, not along the join.

*A guy bought it broken from eBay (it had belonged to a big indie band whose name escapes me) to give to his nephew. I think it was a case of easy come, easy go for the kid who absolutely trashed it.

CloudNine

I have 100% faith in Ian Dickinson at Guitar Workshop Glasgow. Have been going there since they originally opened, with all manner of guitars for repairs, refrets, everything. Never had a bad experience, always wants to do the absolute best job possible, open minded as to the best approach, no arrogance thinking that his way is the only way (like many others I have experienced in the past). Really a top guy all round.

JodyJames

CloudNine said:

I have 100% faith in Ian Dickinson at Guitar Workshop Glasgow. Have been going there since they originally opened, with all manner of guitars for repairs, refrets, everything. Never had a bad experience, always wants to do the absolute best job possible, open minded as to the best approach, no arrogance thinking that his way is the only way (like many others I have experienced in the past). Really a top guy all round.

+1, exactly my experience. Also, as a (very) novice dabbler in repairs myself, he's very generous with knowledge and general encouragement.

Moe_Zambeek

I’ve seen a repair done by David A R -and can only say if it’s representative of his finish work, run away as fast as you can. Woodwork looked fine but the paint job was horrific.

WezV

Moe_Zambeek said:

I’ve seen a repair done by David A R -and can only say if it’s representative of his finish work, run away as fast as you can. Woodwork looked fine but the paint job was horrific.

Was it a repair you had done, or one for someone else?

Most will offer a choice whether to just do a reglue without any finish work,  do minor touch ups to blend in the repair without fully hiding it, or attempt to fully hide it

often the 3rd option involved a full neck refinish, burst or stringer adding to the area and actually makes it more obvious

Just to play devils advocate, making it fully clear I haven't seen the repair you are referencing,  the results of headstock break finish work often depend on what the customer was willing to pay for as much as the actual skill of the repairer

WezV

Creed_Clicks said:

Out of curiosity, with a neck break like that, does the wood "lose" something when it is glued back together? e.g. lose a bit of strength through the neck as it is not one piece of wood anymore, though I would imagine a lot of entry level guitars don't have one piece necks and work just fine. The glue must be REALLY strong then to keep it all in place?

If its broken because of a specific weakness, then it is arguably better once re-glued, at least from a structural point of view. 

But as Steve's example demonstrates, the weakness can still be there in the surrounding area.  Once re-glued it's no worse, but not necessarily better.

In this example it's the sort of accident that would damage a well constructed neck without any inherent weakness, so no reason to think it will be better or worse after the fix

Moe_Zambeek

WezV said:

Moe_Zambeek said:

I’ve seen a repair done by David A R -and can only say if it’s representative of his finish work, run away as fast as you can. Woodwork looked fine but the paint job was horrific.

Was it a repair you had done, or one for someone else?

Most will offer a choice whether to just do a reglue without any finish work,  do minor touch ups to blend in the repair without fully hiding it, or attempt to fully hide it

often the 3rd option involved a full neck refinish, burst or stringer adding to the area and actually makes it more obvious

Just to play devils advocate, making it fully clear I haven't seen the repair you are referencing,  the results of headstock break finish work often depend on what the customer was willing to pay for as much as the actual skill of the repairer

It was a repair done for someone else, where a repair at nut and heel on a natural finished guitar had attempted to be covered up with colour, for some reason. 

You’re right though. We should not tar the repairer for this, not having been privy to the details / instructions. 

StuartMac290

CloudNine said:

I have 100% faith in Ian Dickinson at Guitar Workshop Glasgow. Have been going there since they originally opened, with all manner of guitars for repairs, refrets, everything. Never had a bad experience, always wants to do the absolute best job possible, open minded as to the best approach, no arrogance thinking that his way is the only way (like many others I have experienced in the past). Really a top guy all round.

Precisely this. A really good guy doing great work.

Dan_Halen

It's off to the Guitar Workshop in Glasgow in the morning who have seen the photos and seem to think it should be pretty straightforward. They got back to me right away so going to head over there tomorrow and probably have a mooch round the guitar shops whilst I'm in town. If they're good enough for you guys then good enough for me 

guitarjack66

Dan_Halen said:

It's off to the Guitar Workshop in Glasgow in the morning who have seen the photos and seem to think it should be pretty straightforward. They got back to me right away so going to head over there tomorrow and probably have a mooch round the guitar shops whilst I'm in town. If they're good enough for you guys then good enough for me 

Merchant City is a good Glasgow based shop based on online purchases I've had from there. To mooch around at.