85 grand for a Strat - and that's probably fair

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TanninTannin Frets: 5929
Just for interest, a reputable Sydney dealer has this 1957 Strat on offer for $84,995 - say around £43,000, Mind you, given the history of the instrument, that's probably a reasonable price.  

https://www.premierguitars.com.au/collections/electric-solid-body/products/vintage-fender-stratocaster-ex-hank-marvin-usa-1957
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  • tone1tone1 Frets: 5287
    Is that a 3 piece body? Looks far to anaemic and unplayed……I’ll give them £200 and take a punt on it.  =)
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  • OffsetOffset Frets: 13588
    I like the white 1968 Strat they also have for sale that at first glance appears to have been smeared in excrement.
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  • randellarandella Frets: 4679
    Needs a Floyd ;)

    They've got some nice guitars, right enough. A '58 for £10k less, sans-Hank, that looks pretty tasty.
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  • randellarandella Frets: 4679
    This is lovely - a few hundred quid change out of £32,000 which could *just about* be enough for a nice dinner and a few beers down the Cross afterwards.

    https://www.premierguitars.com.au/products/vintage-fender-stratocaster-bandmaster-amp-usa-1961

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  • chris78chris78 Frets: 10019
    Funnily enough I was talking about how mental vintage has gone earlier.

    How about this gem? 54 tele for $18k. Only it’s not really a 54. The body is refinished, the neck has been replaced, the pickups have been rewound….
    https://cartervintage.com/shop/fender-telecaster-1954-blonde/2j1g4BpITnaMbbCjY1Q49JEcjRv
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  • CaseOfAceCaseOfAce Frets: 1536
    "This Hank Marvin-owned ’57 Strat would make a wonderful addition for a discerning buyer’s vintage guitar collection."

    Mixed emotions about that statement - cos you'd hope whoever bought it would play the nuts out of the thing... but nope... in a glass case it goes to be viewed with disinterest by the trophy wife whilst the Sunseeker boat is moored outside  :/

    Then again I read today that a VHS copy of Back To The Future had sold for 8 grand so... people do have money to burn out there.
    ...she's got Dickie Davies eyes...
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 15297
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    chris78 said:
    Funnily enough I was talking about how mental vintage has gone earlier.

    How about this gem? 54 tele for $18k. Only it’s not really a 54. The body is refinished, the neck has been replaced, the pickups have been rewound….
    https://cartervintage.com/shop/fender-telecaster-1954-blonde/2j1g4BpITnaMbbCjY1Q49JEcjRv
    but apart from that ------------
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  • OffsetOffset Frets: 13588
    chris78 said:
    Funnily enough I was talking about how mental vintage has gone earlier.

    How about this gem? 54 tele for $18k. Only it’s not really a 54. The body is refinished, the neck has been replaced, the pickups have been rewound….
    https://cartervintage.com/shop/fender-telecaster-1954-blonde/2j1g4BpITnaMbbCjY1Q49JEcjRv
    but apart from that ------------
    Ha ha!  "Neck of unknown origin" - brilliant.  And WTF is going on with the headstock around the tuners?!
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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 4942
    edited August 2
    Tannin said:
    Just for interest, a reputable Sydney dealer has this 1957 Strat on offer for $84,995 - say around £43,000, Mind you, given the history of the instrument, that's probably a reasonable price.  

    https://www.premierguitars.com.au/collections/electric-solid-body/products/vintage-fender-stratocaster-ex-hank-marvin-usa-1957
    You're paying for the history of course, not just the guitar, but considering the utterly stupid prices people were paying for guitars owned by Mark Knopfler, assuming that's all original & bona-fide it's actually not a completely stupid price, but at circa £44,000 it's still on the high side - I'd have thought maybe circa £30-35k tops!  If that was in the UK I'd be genuinely interested to see it and maybe make an offer, but Australia is just a bit too far way to go for a viewing and goodness knows what shipping, insurance and customs duties would all be!   Be interested to know how that ended up in Australia though.
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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  • LitterickLitterick Frets: 730
    The Strat was 'owned by Hank Marvin for approximately 20 years from 1982 – 2002, long after the glory days of the Shadows. It is an old guitar that was owned by an old guitarist. I doubt collectors will be rushing to Sydney.
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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 4942
    Litterick said:
    The Strat was 'owned by Hank Marvin for approximately 20 years from 1982 – 2002, long after the glory days of the Shadows. It is an old guitar that was owned by an old guitarist. I doubt collectors will be rushing to Sydney.
    I wonder if there's footage on youtube of him playing it at concerts? 
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 15297
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    Offset said:
    chris78 said:
    Funnily enough I was talking about how mental vintage has gone earlier.

    How about this gem? 54 tele for $18k. Only it’s not really a 54. The body is refinished, the neck has been replaced, the pickups have been rewound….
    https://cartervintage.com/shop/fender-telecaster-1954-blonde/2j1g4BpITnaMbbCjY1Q49JEcjRv
    but apart from that ------------
    Ha ha!  "Neck of unknown origin" - brilliant.  And WTF is going on with the headstock around the tuners?!
    If the neck is Canadian Rock Maple, then just a hunch that it is genuine bear claw marks
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 15297
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    Litterick said:
    The Strat was 'owned by Hank Marvin for approximately 20 years from 1982 – 2002, long after the glory days of the Shadows. It is an old guitar that was owned by an old guitarist. I doubt collectors will be rushing to Sydney.
    I believe he sold it as it wasn't apache on his other Strats and that in his view is A minor fault
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 11605
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    Voxman said:
    Tannin said:
    Just for interest, a reputable Sydney dealer has this 1957 Strat on offer for $84,995 - say around £43,000, Mind you, given the history of the instrument, that's probably a reasonable price.  

    https://www.premierguitars.com.au/collections/electric-solid-body/products/vintage-fender-stratocaster-ex-hank-marvin-usa-1957
      Be interested to know how that ended up in Australia though.
    Am I going mad or did Hank live in Australia at one time? He certainly has Australian connections I believe.



    Yep I was right: 'since 1986, Marvin has lived in Perth, Western Australia'

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  • inewhaminewham Frets: 179
    Who's buying them? I'm 61 and while I acknowledge Marvin's contribution it doesn't appeal to me, my youth was post punk so I reckon you need to be 80 to appreciate it. It's already too expensive to be a good bet for a speculator and the prospective buyers are a dwindling pool. Is it just investment bankers buying these things and putting them in cases to display their wealth? Seems a bit sad.

    I'll get me coat....

    Ian
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  • CavemanGroggCavemanGrogg Frets: 3410
    edited August 2
    I've seen newer Fender Strats, with no celebrity connection or provenience sell for over USD200K - the Marlin Monroe Fender Strat and the chrome Harley Davidson Fender Strat being two examples.
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 15297
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    I've seen newer Fender Strats, with no celebrity connection or provenience sell for over USD200K - the Marlin Monroe Fender Strat and the chrome Harley Davidson Fender Strat being two examples.
    Crikey  - Didn’t know they had reached such highs - Recall both back in the day inc the green Jaguar Strat and they struggled to fetch 10k
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  • LittlejonnyLittlejonny Frets: 190
    inewham said:
    Who's buying them? I'm 61 and while I acknowledge Marvin's contribution it doesn't appeal to me, my youth was post punk so I reckon you need to be 80 to appreciate it. It's already too expensive to be a good bet for a speculator and the prospective buyers are a dwindling pool. Is it just investment bankers buying these things and putting them in cases to display their wealth? Seems a bit sad.

    I'll get me coat....
    I think you miss the point - Hank Marvin was a hugely influential musician - he was a major influence on the 60s and 70s guitarists. surely in a book on influential guitarists he’s more likely to feature than Thurston Moore or Tommy Verlaine. Hank Marvin is so famous that his name has crept into modern rhyming slang for ‘starving’. Also, it’s a beautiful example of a 50s Fender in great condish. 
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  • KurtisKurtis Frets: 1066
    CaseOfAce said:
    "This Hank Marvin-owned ’57 Strat would make a wonderful addition for a discerning buyer’s vintage guitar collection."

    Mixed emotions about that statement - cos you'd hope whoever bought it would play the nuts out of the thing... but nope... in a glass case it goes to be viewed with disinterest by the trophy wife whilst the Sunseeker boat is moored outside  :/

    Then again I read today that a VHS copy of Back To The Future had sold for 8 grand so... people do have money to burn out there.
    I don't know, I mean, who spends that kind of money on a guitar to play the crap out of it?
    If you can afford it you can afford a decent modern guitar to play.
    Guitars like this are surely more about the provenance than the playability.

    I'd certainly prefer hank's guitar on my wall than a signature in a book or whatever.


    Not that I'd actually want any of it!
    Yo momma's on the crack rock!
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  • CavemanGroggCavemanGrogg Frets: 3410
    edited August 2
    I've seen newer Fender Strats, with no celebrity connection or provenience sell for over USD200K - the Marlin Monroe Fender Strat and the chrome Harley Davidson Fender Strat being two examples.
    Crikey  - Didn’t know they had reached such highs - Recall both back in the day inc the green Jaguar Strat and they struggled to fetch 10k

    When I got the Marlin Monroe Strat, the one with a diamond mounted in the headstock - the so called ''diamond edition'' as they where called, I was given it instead of a wage and I really really didn't want it, it had a MRRP of under USD$2k - yes I was paid that little though remember I was born in 1982 and this guitar was released in 1993 so I was only 11 so it wasn't really a bad yearly wage for an 11 year old, I thought it was that tacky and ugly, and for legal reasons the music shop that I sort of worked in shouldn't of had it in the country in the first place as it was classed as pornography remember the guitar was a collaboration with Playboy magazine which is still classed as pornography and illegal in the country today, so they couldn't display it in the shop or shop window without risking huge fines or even sell it, and this being the 90's FMIC where really really struggling in Asia to compete with their MIJ Fenders, so FMIC really started to target the Asian market and made it compulsory for any Asia based guitar shop that wanted to be a proper ''fully'' authorised Fender Dealer - instead of being grey market dealers for FMIC's MIA lines, to purchase and stock at least one of them - hence why they gave it to me instead of paying me a wage that way they could get their fully fledged Fender Authorised Dealer status get rid of a guitar that could get them in a lot of trouble and pay me all in one transaction, and the following year when the chrome Harley Davidson Strats where released - again I didn't pay for mine they where given to me instead of paying me a wage, it had a MRRP of around USD$2.5K - again Fender USA made this a compulsory stock item for Asian guitar shops that either wanted to become Fender Authorised Dealer or to retain their Fender Authorised Dealer status.
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