I dont think this is a custom shop as we know them (Gibson ES 335) ebay

hollywoodrox

Seems like a bargain plus it says Gibson custom , not custom shop with the little badge 
  I’m sure they made Memphis ones called custom but not the custom shop as we know now .
  Is it a steal or a swerve ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256174254536?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m161799.l174484&plmtId=700008&mesgId=3015&mkcid=8&ch=osgood&bu=43198461646&trkId=0047d627-8a12-3294-8e93-da64f28ad2f9&cnvId=700003&recoId=256174254536&recoPos=1

timmypix

Regular production guitar in a Custom Shop case - I'm fairly sure if it were Custom Shop it would say so on the F-hole sticker

hollywoodrox

timmypix said:

Regular production guitar in a Custom Shop case - I'm fairly sure if it were Custom Shop it would say so on the F-hole sticker

That’s what I thought , he also says it’s a Nashville but it’s clearly stated “Memphis on the sticker “ 
the serial number does match with the little certificate  but that says custom ,not custom shop .

heres an original thread I read a few days ago about the difference 
https://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/guitar-amps-gizmos/84184-what-exactly-memphis-custom-shop-gibson-es-335-a.html

hollywoodrox

Here’s a copy & paste from another forum

Shame on Gibson for intentionally confusing the market by bringing the words "Custom" and, yes, "Custom Shop" into the Memphis line. Yes there were some models that even said "Custom Shop" on the back of the headstock. Management gave marketing too much latitude with that stupid move. One had to look long and deep to find what they really meant was there were some "Custom Shop Series" models. Gibson just shrugged it off like it was the public's problem if they thought they were made in the Gibson Custom Shop. And of course sellers could and have passed off those models as Custom Shop just using the same misleading names that Gibson gave them. Since about 2014, Gibson quit doing that. But obviously the intentional confusion continues and will continue. 
The sad thing is that Gibson had no need to try to artificially pump up the perception of quality with the Memphis made models. They were already making some of Gibson's best ever and were heading into a few more years of the same, pretty much until the plant closed.

stickyfiddle

All ESes were "Custom Shop" labelled for a few years. I wanna say roughly 2006 to 2018 when they closed the Memphis plant, but I'm not certain on dates. 

It's not in spectacular condition but that may be because it's had the shit planted out of it because it's a great guitar. 

Fishboy7

I thought the custom shop models were always a specific year’s reissues. 

hollywoodrox

The looks aren’t too bad just wondered if it looked ok & was genuine , which it appears to be .
  Shame it’s in Edinburgh  might put a lot of people off  seeing as it’s collection only 

Philly_Q

stickyfiddle said:

All ESes were "Custom Shop" labelled for a few years. I wanna say roughly 2006 to 2018 when they closed the Memphis plant, but I'm not certain on dates. 

It's not in spectacular condition but that may be because it's had the shit planted out of it because it's a great guitar. 

I think you're right about the Memphis models.  Just looking back at pictures of my 2009(?) ES-339, it had the Custom Shop case, certificate of authenticity and "CS" serial number.

However, it also had a Custom Shop decal on the back of the headstock, and the serial was ink-stamped rather than stamped into the wood like this one.  But I don't know what specific differences there may have been between models and years.

SteveRobinson

stickyfiddle said:

It's not in spectacular condition 

No that's just "minor scratches"

stickyfiddle

Fishboy7 said:

I thought the custom shop models were always a specific year’s reissues. 

Nope - same as Fender it's mostly reissues but they've always done a bunch of other stuff from the Custom Shop. All ESes and LP Customs were included in that list of "other stuff" for a good 15 years or so. 

guitars4you

Typical of Gibson to create the confusion

Often, not always, there is a confusion between Custom and Custom Shop - Many will 'somehow' turn a Custom into Custom Shop when they offer it for sale - Either deliberately or unknowingley - But look carefully on any label or COA and you should see it state 'Custom' and not 'Custom Shop'

You'll see many 335 Dot Reissues listed as Custom 

As an overview, most Custom Shop models are 'vintage' replicas tied to a particular year - ie 59 dot, or 63 block etc - But a production 335 dot, be it with or without a 'Custom' label/decal might have 'old school' details like Mickey Mouse ears and dot inlays, but are not tied to a particular year

But don't take the above as the answer to all queries as with Memphis and Nashville they have created confusion and I believe some started off in one factory, yet when to the other for competition 

hollywoodrox

So a Memphis 335 custom represents good vale for money around 2k 
  Wonder what you’d think quality wise compared to the current es 335 satin ?
  They both seem very nice . It does say hand bulit by Gibson custom by highly skilled artisans 
   But are the regular current ones built the same way ? 

andy1839

I've had a CS 335 59 Reissue and currently have a 2009 Custom (Memphis) 335.

Both were well made but the older Memphis one is lighter, more resonant and sounds far better.

As with all things gibson, it doesn't really matter where it was built.  There are gems to be found across all years and factories. 

My best Gibson is a 2012 aged R8 that most people wouldn't touch with a barge pole. But it's the best LP I've ever played.

prowla

Well, the COA is titled "GIBSON CUSTOM", states it was "hand built by Gibson Custom", and signed "Gibson Custom Shop".

I guess that means Gibson have conflated the two terms.

BobHillman

The ad says it is "figured". I can't see any evidence of that in the photos.

hollywoodrox

andy1839 said:

I've had a CS 335 59 Reissue and currently have a 2009 Custom (Memphis) 335.

Both were well made but the older Memphis one is lighter, more resonant and sounds far better.

As with all things gibson, it doesn't really matter where it was built.  There are gems to be found across all years and factories. 

My best Gibson is a 2012 aged R8 that most people wouldn't touch with a barge pole. But it's the best LP I've ever played.

Thanks Andy 

markj

timmypix said:

Regular production guitar in a Custom Shop case - I'm fairly sure if it were Custom Shop it would say so on the F-hole sticker

My custom shop doesn’t mention anything on the sticker.

markj

This definitely is not a Custom shop model, you don’t have its serial number stamped on the back of the headstock.

ElectricXII

stickyfiddle said:

All ESes were "Custom Shop" labelled for a few years. I wanna say roughly 2006 to 2018 when they closed the Memphis plant, but I'm not certain on dates. 
 

For a while, ES guitars had "Gibson Custom" on the COAs, but that stopped before 2018. My 2015 ES-335 has "Gibson Memphis" on the COA.

ICBM

It's also a particularly nasty shade of cheap-looking bright red, and very poorly finished - orange peel everywhere, including the front of the headstock. It actually made me wonder if it's been refinished, but it's probably just Gibson's production quality.

stickyfiddle

markj said:

This definitely is not a Custom shop model, you don’t have its serial number stamped on the back of the headstock.

Yes it is. But that doesn’t mean the same for a mid-2000s ES as it does now. 

https://forum.gibson.com/topic/9005-newbie-quick-question-re-es-335s-from-2007/

https://forum.gibson.com/topic/84200-where-was-my-es-335-made/