Tonex Tips

professorben

So I was thinking. 

Wouldn’t it be cool if I had one of those single do-it-all multi fx boxes like a Line6 HX One or the TC Plethora 1. 

Then I realised I do, the ToneX One…
it’s got Comp, Gate, Modulation, Delay and Reverb and EQ all built in, then I realised I could combine all those effects with captures of gain pedals etc. 

so I’ve got a cleanish Klon with the Flanger effect, give a little bit of gain and push when I engage the pedal so I don’t lose any gain or impact when I engage the ‘Flanger’ pedal as I usually experience. 

Then I thought “ooooh I could pair a BK Butler tube driver with the Tape Delay effect to give me a really nice Echoplex effect” and yeah it sounds pretty cool. 

So I’ve set up the ‘Flanger’ on the stomp on/off slot, and the ‘Echoplex’ on the A/B position with a non Delay version to alternate with. 

It’s a fairly quick twiddle of a knob (no laughing at the back) to switch between them. 

And I’ve still got the Soldano SLO100  capture hidden in the ToneX One as my get out of jail emergency backup should I need it.  

Still lots to explore about this powerful little pedal. 

gearaddict

This is probably the stage everyone gets to after about a week of owning the Tonex pedal...I'm thinking - should I try and capture my own amp?  I'm a total numpty when it comes to the computer side of guitar playing. The whole inputs/outputs thing makes my brain melt. On the occasions I've been forced to record guitar/vocals I've more or less changed things at random until it worked. I just use Audacity as a DAW as it's relatively simple for my simple brain.

Anyway - I have a Presonus iTwo, which has two inputs. The output is two 1/4" jacks - L/R...I'm guessing they can be panned left and right to separate the guitar and amp signals...could be wrong. I have a mic. I have a basic DI box. I don't have a load box any more but I wouldn't mind getting one. Initially I guess I can capture the whole rig though, just to try it.

Do I have the necessary gear to do a capture with the Tonex software? Is there a numpties guide somewhere? I tried YT but couldn't really find the right thing.

Thanks!

andy_k

Its been a while,still enjoying my setups,
I pre-ordered the Satch model, mainly to use as something to use as a simple Gtr interface, and watching this video-



was reminded of one of the bugs / features that STILL catch me out from time to time.
Notice, after the first few gainy amps, when he selects a clean amp and says it is low volume, cranks the vol to 10--then knobs carry the same settings to every subsequent amp???
It is mentioned in the comments, one person suggests it is related to which tab he has selected, and another says it is related to settings made in the advanced amp settings.
I suspect, a 'tone model' should  ALWAYS show the knobs at a default setting of '5', which would be the actual capture setting.
It is easier to see on some amps ( Fender styles are a bit harder to spot ) but obviously, if the settings carry over from amp to amp, it makes comparisons very tricky.
The pedal itself is very reactive to changes in gain and volume, and when it is set just right, the tone model reacts very well to volume changes on the guitar - one of the things that makes it so good IMO.

It also might explain why some people are having trouble, if a knob is altered in the tone model, and the settings are carried over to the next patch selected.
Things might change with the editor update, and I hope this bug / feature has been fixed.

guitartango

Just brought one. OMG the software is so confusing, you are better off disconnecting the Tonex and just using the software to edit the pre-sets then upload to the Pedal. I can plug in the tonex into the return of the Helix and get some really good sounds

Nige458

New editor release date is March 13th....

thecolourbox

I did think they were cutting it a bit fine when they claimed it would be released in February. There's always something with them isn't there

Bats_

The new editor looks great from that video, finally be able to use the Tonex without swearing!

Benz3ne

Nige458 said:

New editor release date is March 13th....

Hopefully it goes smoothly between now and then and they don't have any further delays.
Agreed with @thecolourbox 's sentiments about it being fine within the confines of February.

TTBZ

I think with the new editor I might finally give the Tonex One a try. Looks like it makes a lot more sense than the current software which is a bit all over the place. 

Heartfeltdawn

Bats_ said:

The new editor looks great from that video, finally be able to use the Tonex without swearing!

On the contrary. I'm hoping it'll take me from "This UI is fucking shit" to "This UI is fucking great". 

Paul_C

Nice, I like my Tonex as it is, but who knows what I might discover with the new editor

TheBigDipper

People who like the pedal (me) but not the software app (me) are going to like being able to make pedal edits directly onto the pedal and hear the result immediately through whatever amp/cab they're using to actually hear anything. I'm looking forward to it, too. :-) 

digitalscream

Paul_C said:

Nice, I like my Tonex as it is, but who knows what I might discover with the new editor

Well, one nice feature is putting the EQ frequency and Q value front-and-centre - when I was tweaking the ADA MP-1 profiles I use, that was the primary way to get it to behave close to the original unit.

gearaddict

Apologies if this is answered elsewhere but can you use the Tonex into ‘normal’ mod fx pedals into a FRFR? Or will the output from the Tonex be a problem going into, say, a chorus pedal or would the output from the chorus pedal be wrong for a FRFR?

digitalscream

gearaddict said:

Apologies if this is answered elsewhere but can you use the Tonex into ‘normal’ mod fx pedals into a FRFR? Or will the output from the Tonex be a problem going into, say, a chorus pedal or would the output from the chorus pedal be wrong for a FRFR?

Can't see how. I use mine as:

Ninety Orange -> ToneX ONE -> Ibanez Chorus -> Keeley Eccos delay -> audio interface -> studio monitors

That sounds great, exactly as you'd expect; FRFR is functionally no different to studio monitors.

fretmeister

It’s all good.

this evening I’ve had a Warm Audio Bender into a Univibe, then Tonex, then a UAFX Orion delay and then into the power amp input on a Katana.

Sounds ace!

andy_k

gearaddict said:

Apologies if this is answered elsewhere but can you use the Tonex into ‘normal’ mod fx pedals into a FRFR? Or will the output from the Tonex be a problem going into, say, a chorus pedal or would the output from the chorus pedal be wrong for a FRFR?

I admit, it feels like this shouldn't work, but it does it all - really well.
The chain you are describing can be done on the Tonex itself, the fx can be put pre or post amp, and if you are using FRFR, or studio monitors, you are basically hearing the recorded sound of the chain, as if using headphones.
I'm happy using mine through a hifi amp, into a guitar cab, so it isn't technically correct, but still sounds ace.
My thinking is, we aren't trying to reproduce frequencies outside what would be coming from a guitar cab anyway, so why wouldn't a cab work well enough to play through?
Any problems can be fixed with the Eq in the preset, and this will be a lot easier when the editor drops in a couple of weeks.
I received my Satch Tonex One yesterday, and must say the patches are excellent, around 70 tone models, and 20 presets inc FX on the pedal, really well done selection, and I will be digging in to some of these once I have backed up the patches on my PC.

Nige458

New editor available for download 

Benz3ne

Nige458 said:

New editor available for download 

I'll be giving it a go tonight after a late finish in work, I reckon!

thecolourbox

Oh that's good news, looking forward to trying it out and falling fully down the rabbit hole...