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  • Have you bought a rat yet, @Shipwreck? Eagerly awaiting updates here  B)
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  • Have you bought a rat yet, @Shipwreck? Eagerly awaiting updates here  B)
    Not yet mate. I'm keeping eyes peeled for a reasonably priced US build (any chip) atm - either non-white face Rat II or Big Box. That said, the more I read, the more I fall down the rabbit (rat?) hole. I also found this last night which looks like a v good deal...! 
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  • Payday brain is back on the hunt. And more options have presented themselves. 

    Has anyone experience the Keeley modded Rat II? I've been sent an offer on eBay for one and the demos seem interesting enough. Quite tempted by a Thorpy Multi-rat mod too - as would be fun to have the different flavours within the classic ProCo box. Argh!  
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  • GoFishGoFish Frets: 2215
    The one you linked a week ago does seem interesting. Zander makes decent pedals and it's got a socketed LM308 as well.
    Ten years too late and still getting it wrong
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  • Despite selling a large part of my pedal collection, I not only decided to keep a few rats but also picked up a USA turbo rat & whiteface reissue in the last few weeks.

    Each of these definitely has a unique sound & I love them all for various reasons. The fun part is that the Mooer is by far the most versatile & useful due to board friendly size. Nothing really in it between the turbo & black secret in the same mode.

    And in case anyone else was wondering - big box & whiteface sound identical. Big box has slightly less noise on higher gain settings. Both are just perfectly delicious - it’s the rat sound I always imagine in my head.

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  • GoFish said:
    The one you linked a week ago does seem interesting. Zander makes decent pedals and it's got a socketed LM308 as well.

    It sure is. I spoke to him about it as wasn't sure of its history - looks like someone bought a limited 'glyph' variant and painted a rat on it!

    Despite selling a large part of my pedal collection, I not only decided to keep a few rats but also picked up a USA turbo rat & whiteface reissue in the last few weeks.

    Each of these definitely has a unique sound & I love them all for various reasons. The fun part is that the Mooer is by far the most versatile & useful due to board friendly size. Nothing really in it between the turbo & black secret in the same mode.

    And in case anyone else was wondering - big box & whiteface sound identical. Big box has slightly less noise on higher gain settings. Both are just perfectly delicious - it’s the rat sound I always imagine in my head.

    Great stuff - but also... proving the point... too many options! I was v close to buying an OP7 Big-box.  Interesting point about the Turbo actually. Hideous branding imo but demos imply it's a bit more open / less compressed which the name wouldn't suggest! 
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  • GoFishGoFish Frets: 2215
    Shipwreck said:
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    It sure is. I spoke to him about it as wasn't sure of its history - looks like someone bought a limited 'glyph' variant and painted a rat on it!

    Cheeky!

    Ten years too late and still getting it wrong
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  • I’m late to this. 

    Personally I wouldn’t worry about all the different versions. Just get anything half decent and go from there. 

    FWIW my favourites are the Thorpy Warthog, a Fuzzdog clone I built yonks ago with the “right” chip, and an early MIC one that the internet says is shit but sounds incredible
    The Assumptions - UAE party band for all your rock & soul desires
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  • Guitarist in a band I was in almost 30 years ago had one. Sounded great. Did sound great when I used it, so may not have been what I was looking for at the time. 

    I still think of getting one though. I'm not as gain-obsessed as I was in those days, but worried it might be like the op amp Muff I was asking about on here months back. 
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  • I still think of getting one though. I'm not as gain-obsessed as I was in those days, but worried it might be like the op amp Muff I was asking about on here months back. 
    I've used an IC Big Muff for years so in a similar boat tbh. Have you seen this? No doubt too similar for me at this stage but I bet it's up my street! Big Muff w/RAT filtering...! 

    https://jptrfx.com/products/jptr-fx-warlow-fuzz-monstrosity?srsltid=AfmBOooq7k-qgWhcYvsjtPwwDDLi2PqHYsz9Rk_8EAeGKrk-TxWxqLBH
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  • ShipwreckShipwreck Frets: 127
    edited December 2024
    Turns out you have to move fast (there's a rat pun here somewhere)

    Had a cheap local MIC Rat II slip away this week and the Keeley I said I'd mull over the weekend sold last night. 

    Interestingly, just clocked a store in London is doing a modded Rat that and the standard unit for a mere 50 quid. Anyone have expereince w/the "Rhod Mods" ? https://ccgx.co.uk/?s=PROCO+RAT&post_type=product


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  • SeshSesh Frets: 2022
    PM if you are interested in a turbo rat... 
    Can't sing, can't dance, can handle a guitar a little.
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  • ShipwreckShipwreck Frets: 127
    edited January 6
    Apols - I totally forgot to update this thread! Thanks for all your help here. 

    After much back-and-forth, life delays, an eBay voucher and funds from Mrs Shipwreck I went for the (rolls-royce?) of ProCo's offering: the FatRat. And I bloody love it. 

    Mosfet diodes sound the best to my ear and the "Fat" switch is truly excellent at home. I suspect the "skinny" mode cuts better in a live mix so I love having that option. 

    Built like a tank, lovely smooth pots and I am an absolute sucker for stupid mini-switches / pedals that feel like they were designed in and/for the survival of the Cold War. I realise I could've nabbed a boutique version for the same price but I felt compelled to stick with ProCo for the legacy.

    Bernard Butler and Graham Coxon are two my absolute heroes but it's  the sound of so many great records too. Everything from What's The Frequency Kenneth to early Radiohead and Weezer and even those skuzzy Foo Fighters tunes before they went MOR. A legend for a reason.  



     
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  • MrBumpMrBump Frets: 1251
    For what it's worth my favourite is a TateFX Brexit Means Brexit pedal.  I bought it for the look of it and the sentiment, but it's actually a brilliant RAT clone - not sure what version it is.

    I also have a Wampler Ratsbane, but I can't get it to sound as good as the TateFX pedal.  Which is actually off my board at the moment because of a bad connection in it that I haven't got around to fix.
    Mark de Manbey

    Trading feedback:  http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/72424/
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  • RevolutionsRevolutions Frets: 2207
    nice choice @Shipwreck ; - hope you have many fun noises together  <3
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  • ZonularZonular Frets: 66
    Anyone got opinions on a deucetone rat
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 76501

    Big/full-size pot versions are more important than the IC inside - there’s more of an audible change once they switched to mini ones.
    This. It’s not cork-sniffery, there’s a significant difference, both in the knob positions to give a particular sound, and the overall tone. (In my opinion.) Much more so than the minimal - if any - difference the chip makes.

    The best of the lot is the original USA Rat II in my experience.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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  • guitargeek62guitargeek62 Frets: 4564
    ICBM said:

    Big/full-size pot versions are more important than the IC inside - there’s more of an audible change once they switched to mini ones.
    This. It’s not cork-sniffery, there’s a significant difference, both in the knob positions to give a particular sound, and the overall tone. (In my opinion.) Much more so than the minimal - if any - difference the chip makes.

    The best of the lot is the original USA Rat II in my experience.
    The slightly-later US RAT II with the OP07 chip and big pots is my favourite, I prefer the brighter & tighter tones but it’s not night & day difference between them really.

    I picked up a ProCo BRAT recently and that is a very cool variant whilst still in the same RAT ballpark. The biggest downside is that it doesn’t have a DC jack, so it’s battery-only.
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  • GavRichListGavRichList Frets: 7592
    edited January 12
    ICBM said:

    Big/full-size pot versions are more important than the IC inside - there’s more of an audible change once they switched to mini ones.
    This. It’s not cork-sniffery, there’s a significant difference, both in the knob positions to give a particular sound, and the overall tone. (In my opinion.) Much more so than the minimal - if any - difference the chip makes.

    The best of the lot is the original USA Rat II in my experience.
    The slightly-later US RAT II with the OP07 chip and big pots is my favourite, I prefer the brighter & tighter tones but it’s not night & day difference between them really.
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  • GavRichListGavRichList Frets: 7592
    Silly thing won’t let me quote properly… was just going to say, how did you miss me selling one of these really cheaply very recently?! 
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