Easy jazz suggestions

goldtop

I have a student/friend who's drawn to jazz, which is rather beyond my pay grade. We're just doing her favourite Laufey song, which being a soft jazz ballad is relatively easy for me to sus out and show her.



She also suggested Disney's "Everybody wants to be a cat" which is more trad jazz (to my ears) and quite a lot of fun:



^ But ... it's actually quite tricky to get into from a standing start. I've just got my fingers around the chord changes, but it'll be a bit of a reach for her. We can work on the structure, but will have to take time to build speed.

Can anyone suggest some trad jazz standards that have that feel, but are a bit more accessible?

oh_pollo

If she can put up with the darkness of the lyrics then 'St. James Infirmary' would work, Loads of tabs online.

octatonic

Can they read (and do you)?
Get them a Real Book.

(Pretty much) any jazz tune can be played at different levels of complexity.
I get people to start with a jazz standard in C, something like 'All of Me' or 'Satin Doll'.

You don't have to try to play the whole thing in one go, just take it section by section.

First level is to comp the chords along with the track.
Start to explain what a ii V I is, why it is so important.

Then have them learn the head/vocal melody.
You can simplify it as needed.

Then have them start to outline the 3rd and 7th of each chord as they play through it.
You can show them practical uses for arpeggios by doing this, rather than a load of rote learning that will bore them.
Teach them how to circle notes (semitone above/below) and when to use it.

You can also explain how to make a minor lick into a major lick- all the usual stuff.

It can be weird what someone latches on to so it can sometimes help to be a bit scatter gun about it.
Throw some things out and see what sticks.
The thing that really fired me up to learn was when someone explained to me that you could use a diminished 7th chord in place of a dominant chord by sharpening the root of the dominant chord.
So G B D F = G# B D F.
And when I learned you could slide it about by minor 3rds.
I just thought it was the coolest.
That little bit of information was really what got me interested in jazz harmony.

If this isn't something you've done before then it might be great for you as well- you only really need to be a few steps ahead of them to teach it. Although I'd probably come clean about it and say 'this is something we can figure out together, if you want'.

danishbacon

oh_pollo said:

If she can put up with the darkness of the lyrics then 'St. James Infirmary' would work, Loads of tabs online.

Complete side-note but this reminded me of some old music from one of my home-state high-school musicians:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G85rm9R4wfM

goldtop

Thanks for the suggestions - will check them out. 

@octatonic - she wants to remain theory-lite. Mainly because she has picked up a guitar to de-stress from her academic job. So she doesn't want to think consciously beyond remembering what to play. So any significant theory gets in the way.

I am learning more theory these days (Bennett, Beato, etc), but the days when she is keen to learn about secondary dominants, line cliches and other fascinating stuff are way ahead.

octatonic

goldtop said:

Thanks for the suggestions - will check them out. 

@octatonic - she wants to remain theory-lite. Mainly because she has picked up a guitar to de-stress from her academic job. So she doesn't want to think consciously beyond remembering what to play. So any significant theory gets in the way.

I am learning more theory these days (Bennett, Beato, etc), but the days when she is keen to learn about secondary dominants, line cliches and other fascinating stuff are way ahead.

The problem is going to be that with jazz, trying to do it without understanding theory is like trying to write a novel without knowing the alphabet.
Theory doesn't have to be scary, or complex.

Anyway, if this is a definite thing then I guess the way to do it is just going to be comping the chords and then teaching her to play the melodies by ear.

Satin Doll and All of Me are good choices, but really I would ask her what she likes.
I might consider transposing out of difficult keys, but if she isn't reading and it really is just copying what you are doing then it might not be an issue.

PAL

Here is the free on line Real Book..... https://realbook.site/ Also check out Adam Levy Guitar on YouTube where he 
  shows how to use shell chords . These are chords made up of three notes . The song he does is "All of me "
  This will make playing jazz standards a bit easier. Good luck.

greejn

iReal Pro could be very useful, with backing tracks. Some wrong chord charts, but it's a good app that can be edited. Locally everyone seems to be using it. Autumn Leaves is great for learners.

Winny_Pooh

Madeline Peyroux is great for this kinda stuff, lots off Careless Love eg Dont wait to long

TeleKinesis

(as a jazz beginner also)

+1 for Autumn Leaves!

Stratavarious

+1 get familiar with the real book. I use the iPad version when I get a call to busk a jazz number.

Some easy ones I play when a gig asks for jazzy… Summertime, All Of Me, Sade Smooth Operator, Somewhere over The Rainbow

Some knowledge of Major and minor scales and the modes can help when improvising.  How to build a chord from the numbers.. basic understanding of that will be biggest help than trying to remember shapes without knowing how they are constructed.

GuyBoden

Basic Jazz

1. Learn to play the melody.

2. Learn the chords.

3. Learn the Chord tones for each chord.

4. Play improv lines that have the 3rd or 7th chord tones on beats 1 and 3 of each bar.

Simple, seems to work for me.  

I'm playing the red Ibanez guitar on the left. The very talented Andy Hulme is on the right.

Grangousier

Don't know if this is a bad suggestion, but a lot of old-school jazz rhythm guitar is done with shell chords, which are dead easy to play, and there aren't very many of them, and they get moved around kind of frenetically. Take a look at what John Pizzarelli does (not the soloing, obviously, just the comping) but without the 7-string guitar thing. 

The main thing would be getting the right hand right. 

AntonHunter

GuyBoden said:

Basic Jazz

1. Learn to play the melody.

2. Learn the chords.

3. Learn the Chord tones for each chord.

4. Play improv lines that have the 3rd or 7th chord tones on beats 1 and 3 of each bar.

Simple, seems to work for me.  

I'm playing the red Ibanez guitar on the left. The very talented Andy Hulme is on the right.

Good advice. Thanks for sharing the video, I'm in Cheadle and would come along but if I'm ever free on 2nd Thursday, it clashes with www.thenoiseupstairs.com improv jam in Withington alas. (Also, I'm very rusty on my jazz playing!)

Jalapeno

Satin Doll and Blue Bossa are good beginner tunes introducing Maj & Min 251 progressions - which is 90+% of all jazz. A jazz blues next (more complicated than 145 of traditional blues).

They are also great tunes, but as commonly used for learning a lot people end up loathing them !

GuyBoden

AntonHunter said:

GuyBoden said:

Basic Jazz

1. Learn to play the melody.

2. Learn the chords.

3. Learn the Chord tones for each chord.

4. Play improv lines that have the 3rd or 7th chord tones on beats 1 and 3 of each bar.

Simple, seems to work for me.  

I'm playing the red Ibanez guitar on the left. The very talented Andy Hulme is on the right.

Good advice. Thanks for sharing the video, I'm in Cheadle and would come along but if I'm ever free on 2nd Thursday, it clashes with www.thenoiseupstairs.com improv jam in Withington alas. (Also, I'm very rusty on my jazz playing!)

Jazz doesn't have to be difficult, but you need to listen to a lot of Jazz to play Jazz with a Jazz feel. (Exactly the same as learning any style of music, you need to listen to the music and copy it.)