Hooray - I agree with Rick!

darthed1981

This one is hard to argue with, probably for anybody... as Rick points out, they are after people who have made a product already they can polish and sell... they aren't interested in taking raw musicians and making them into a product.



The music industry currently signs, on still pretty poor deals, artists who have already got themselves out there with a strong social media following... so then who the hell needs the major labels?  Why don't artists go their own way?

With independent artists now making six-figures from music-related activities through huge followings on social media and patreon, does the long promised land where artists have more control, more of the money they make and direct communication with fans look closer. or have the labels now done enough to survive?

Some promising new bands, like The Last Dinner Party, are signed to majors (UMG, via Island) , some, like the Reytons, really are treading their own path.

Obviously, some genres, like Dance and Metal, have always relied on small independent labels anyway, so the fall or survival of the majors will barely raise an eyebrow.

Sporky

Seeing another Bee-yatto thread is like losing The Game. 

darthed1981

Sporky said:

Seeing another Bee-yatto thread is like losing The Game. 

Yeah we've had a few but I'm normally accusing him of being wrong, I like getting an opportunity to agree with someone, and the point he is making about the industry is worth discussing.

Sporky

Sorry - I was just trolling people who play The Game. Don't mind me! 

dindude

I watched that, the guy from the record company speaks in mind-boggles, it’s hilarious in how bad he comes across, but also pretty sad that’s what it’s become. 

LPManic

I remember the days I like Beato.

darthed1981

dindude said:

I watched that, the guy from the record company speaks in mind-boggles, it’s hilarious in how bad he comes across, but also pretty sad that’s what it’s become. 

Yup - the miracle is that so much diverse talent is getting through despite plonkers like him being the gatekeepers.  It says a lot for the talent of the artists who are, and their management.

He's like that guy who gets squashed by the Nazgul near the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring...

prowla

Sometimes I think Beato is talking at me rather than to me and other times I find his insights fascinating.

In this one he did make me laugh a couple of times there.

distressed

It seems to me he's making one big 16-hour "everything was better before" video for every year, and then cutting it into smaller ones.

EricTheWeary

I watched a bit of it. The record exec was a bit like most of what happens on Dragon's Den only really looking to invest in already successful businesses and expand them rather than taking genuine risks. Perhaps that's fair enough. If I could show him that Eric and the Earholes have xxxxx following on social media and our income is £xxxxxx and net profit is £xxxx he might get on board. It's clearly bugger all to do with music and developing new artists but I don't know why that's a surprise. 

darthed1981

EricTheWeary said:

The record exec was a bit like most of what happens on Dragon's Den only really looking to invest in already successful businesses and expand them rather than taking genuine risks. 

Yup - that's pretty much exactly it.  

It's not a surprise for anyone - but it does present a stark choice to artists - they can sign up with a dragon in one of the major labels or just do what you wonder they don't do more often on Dragon's Den... walk into a bank and borrow money to grow your already successful business.

Philly_Q

I'm glad it was only five and a half minutes, I've never heard so much repetition in such a short time. 

What exactly, based on this, is the benefit of signing with a major label?  It sounds like they just want a cut of the success you've already got.

PotentialDonkey

I always feel like being beaten over the head with a Beato Book when watching one of Rick’s videos no matter how much I agree or disagree with Rick.

Why is nobody talking about the fact that he looks eerily like Rick Sanchez from Rick & Morty?

darthed1981

PotentialDonkey said:

I always feel like being beaten over the head with a Beato Book when watching one of Rick’s videos no matter how much I agree or disagree with Rick.

Why is nobody talking about the fact that he looks eerily like Rick Sanchez from Rick & Morty?

Does Beato get Schwifty? That's the question.

PotentialDonkey

darthed1981 said:

PotentialDonkey said:

I always feel like being beaten over the head with a Beato Book when watching one of Rick’s videos no matter how much I agree or disagree with Rick.

Why is nobody talking about the fact that he looks eerily like Rick Sanchez from Rick & Morty?

Does Beato get Schwifty? That's the question.

I always thought getting Schwifty sounded like a euphemism for having a crush on Taylor. Maybe he does? But that is not our business.