Online Tutors/zoom lessons.

Flink_Poyd

I'm thinking about starting lessons again as I've hit a bit of a wall and need someone to tell me off for being lazy every now and again. Never done online lessons with a tutor before and I'm struggling to find one that covers stuff I want to learn (metal)
Are there any sites where online tutors advertise? 

Switch625

I was just looking myself and you can find some here:

https://www.superprof.co.uk/lessons/guitar/online/

https://musicteachers.co.uk/online/guitar

I believe some Fretboarders also offer online lessons, hopefully they will chime in

oh_pollo

If there's a YouTube channel that covers the sort of thing you want to learn it might be worth contacting them directly and seeing if it's something they offer.

Flink_Poyd

oh_pollo said:

If there's a YouTube channel that covers the sort of thing you want to learn it might be worth contacting them directly and seeing if it's something they offer.

Not a bad idea, hadn't thought of that 

Flink_Poyd

Switch625 said:

I was just looking myself and you can find some here:

https://www.superprof.co.uk/lessons/guitar/online/

https://musicteachers.co.uk/online/guitar

I believe some Fretboarders also offer online lessons, hopefully they will chime in

Superprof seems like some sort of weird dating site. I know they need a business model but £39 for a student pass to contact tutors is a bit much. I'll try the musicteachers one first.

Supportact

oh_pollo said:

If there's a YouTube channel that covers the sort of thing you want to learn it might be worth contacting them directly and seeing if it's something they offer.

That's what I did when I was looking (different genre though). A lot of people who have Youtube channels will also do private lessons.  

kelpbeds

Undoubtedly Martin Goulding would be your best bet. The list of top guitarists he has taught is second to none. 

Nitefly

Isn't this what @Lestratcaster does?

Lestratcaster

Nitefly said:

Isn't this what @Lestratcaster does?

Yes I teach online and into metalcore (similar playing techniques to metal)

Let me know if you’re interested.

thanks for the mention @Nitefly ;

roberty

I took lessons from Bob Balch for a good few years, from pre-brexit to pre-covid when it was more affordable. He was the fourth tutor I went to before settling. His approach was practical and song oriented, with theory and technique stemming from the song

He pushed me to play things that I would have written off as too difficult on my own. He didn't cover much technique but watching him play stuff above my level made it seem possible, and I adapted my own playing by copying his movements. I was able to question him about how he was playing things rather than just what he was playing and that helped a lot

I think the important thing is to find someone who inspires you. You have to want something they have

Meant to get lessons again more recently, but life etc

Bennyboy-UK

kelpbeds said:

Undoubtedly Martin Goulding would be your best bet. The list of top guitarists he has taught is second to none. 

100% Martin will make you work and help you progress!

wddonalds

Another vote for Martin Goulding. I took some lessons from him a couple of years ago and he sorted my technique out big time. 

Flink_Poyd

wddonalds said:

Another vote for Martin Goulding. I took some lessons from him a couple of years ago and he sorted my technique out big time. 

What sort of price were you paying back then?

wddonalds

I think Martin was £45 per hour when I had lessons. I used to have a lesson once every three weeks due to my schedule. 

Bennyboy-UK

I just saw Sam Bell is charging £75/hr, and lots of other guys are £60 to £80.

Martin is on 07910 895266 and teaches via Zoom.

topdog91

This thread is piquing my interest as I'm thinking a teacher might make me accountable. For those who've done online lessons, was it not limiting that the teacher can't see you close up and you can't play together because of latency?

Lestratcaster

topdog91 said:

This thread is piquing my interest as I'm thinking a teacher might make me accountable. For those who've done online lessons, was it not limiting that the teacher can't see you close up and you can't play together because of latency?

I can see most of my learner's hands (they often need a cue to tilt their webcam downwards though as they are so used to meeting calls being on their face). 

The latency side I get them to mute and they play along to my audio first so I don't get distracted with their slightly late hits. Then we swap and they play the music their side. That's how I've got round it but there's obstacles of course, if its a song they're not familiar with they sometimes don't know when to come in or know they've made a mistake and correct it in real-time against another person.

octatonic

Flink_Poyd said:

I'm thinking about starting lessons again as I've hit a bit of a wall and need someone to tell me off for being lazy every now and again. Never done online lessons with a tutor before and I'm struggling to find one that covers stuff I want to learn (metal)
Are there any sites where online tutors advertise? 

For Rock and Metal Martin Goulding is hard to beat.
He's a great teacher and has a really good approach.

JonnyBgoode

Bennyboy-UK said:

I just saw Sam Bell is charging £75/hr, and lots of other guys are £60 to £80.

Holy Sh1t!!

I've never heard of Sam Bell and you don't mention who those other guys are, are we taking well known influencers with high profile lesson type channels, or guys that are/were well known as musicians or what?    For that matter I've never heard of Martin Goulding either, although if he's still charging £45/hr as mentioned above, that seems to be a bit more down to earth.

Just curious how guitar teachers can command those sort of fees...

Lestratcaster

JonnyBgoode said:

Bennyboy-UK said:

I just saw Sam Bell is charging £75/hr, and lots of other guys are £60 to £80.

Holy Sh1t!!

I've never heard of Sam Bell and you don't mention who those other guys are, are we taking well known influencers with high profile lesson type channels, or guys that are/were well known as musicians or what?    For that matter I've never heard of Martin Goulding either, although if he's still charging £45/hr as mentioned above, that seems to be a bit more down to earth.

Just curious how guitar teachers can command those sort of fees...

Makes me look cheap lol. (I'm around the £40-£45 region).

We do have overheads and running costs to pay for, plus its the years of training and experience we've built up.

Cheaper (less than £35 per hour) teachers probably aren't very good and more hobbyist tutors who already have another job and not bothered about having a business to run or costs to cover as their main 9-5 covers that.

JonnyBgoode

Lestratcaster said:

Makes me look cheap lol. (I'm around the £40-£45 region).

We do have overheads and running costs to pay for, plus its the years of training and experience we've built up.

Cheaper (less than £35 per hour) teachers probably aren't very good and more hobbyist tutors who already have another job and not bothered about having a business to run or costs to cover as their main 9-5 covers that.

OK so where I'm based, £30/an hour is about the average rate for teachers working professionally/mainly as guitar teachers, with their own studio etc. I've seen people charge as little as 20 quid/hour, the most I've seen is 45 quid but that was one guy. I researched all my competitors before I started last year.

I get the bit about overheads - I had broadband cabeled direct into my garden studio mainly for providing good quality teaching online, I have a professional website and domain etc so pay for that also. Plus insurance,  professional indemnity,  the hoops I had to jump through to get listed as a Google Business...etc, etc

I have about 40 years' teaching experience (and an adult teaching qualification - actually I used to train trainers) more time than that actually playing guitar and about 20+ years gigging experience.

So... I have to charge the going market rate for face to face lessons or price myself out of the market. I suppose I could charge a higher rate for online lessons but  I've actually had zero enquiries about online lessons since I started! 

Hence my interest in how on earth some folks can command the sky high figures mentioned above. If somebody said Chris Buck,  Justin Sandercoe, Tom Quayle, Tim Pierce, Paul Davids etc is charging 60-80 quid an hour I'd get it.