Celestion G12m speaker help needed!

newi123

So I listed my Marshall 2061cx cab on Reverb - a potential buyer spotted the back plate was on upside down. I had never noticed this in the years I`ve had it (9 or 10 yrs I guess, I bought it SH)

I`ve taken the back plate off, and it doesn`t have the original speakers. I think it`s supposed to have g12h 30w speakers. In fact it has 2 different g12m speakers:

g12m 25w 16ohm labelled `Celestion International, Ipswich England`
g12m 20w 15 ohm labelled `Celestion LTD, Thames Ditton, Surrey`

See attached pics!

Any info on age / value would be appreciated! Thanks


https://imgur.com/a/6DIRbPt

RickLucas

Well, the labelled speaker is dated 2011. The previous owner may have changed them to lessen the bass and increase the mids and compression?

newi123

RickLucas said:

Well, the labelled speaker is dated 2011. The previous owner may have changed them to lessen the bass and increase the mids and compression?

Cheers - it says tested 2011, which kind of implies to me it may have been an older speaker being fitted?

ICBM

They’re both modern reissues - the G12M-25 is a standard Greenback, the G12M-20 is a Heritage.

newi123

ICBM said:

They’re both modern reissues - the G12M-25 is a standard Greenback, the G12M-20 is a Heritage.

Thanks!

tomajoha

Link to listing? Can’t find it on reverb?

newi123

tomajoha said:

Link to listing? Can’t find it on reverb?

I took it down whilst working out what the speakers were.

tomajoha

What are you asking for it?

TimmyO

For me that would be an upgrade - I really like G12Ms 

Years ago I had a Marshall 18 water combo that had a G12H30 in. It was good but quite bassy so I decided to try a G12M25 in it and much preferred it. 

Also I found that the difference it made to the sound increased as the volume did. 

Bygone_Tones

I wish people wouldn't put stickers on  speaker frames like that. 

Once it's been on there long enough, it will peel the paint off the frame too if you ever try to remove it. A pro speaker place should know better. 

digitalkettle

TimmyO said:

For me that would be an upgrade - I really like G12Ms 
... 

That's how I took it.

The heritage G12Ms got discontinued around 2021...I have a couple in a 2x12. That's 40w in total so I tend not to make it available as backline

victorludorum

I seem to remember Marshall doing a reissue 20w speaker at some stage, almost like the speakers that went in the Bluesbreakers back in the day.

Edit: it seems these were in the 1974cx extension cabs.

nero1701

I've one of those 20W Heritage in my 1x12.

Truth is they were actually Ipswich made, 

My particular speaker came from the other guitarist in the band I used t play with. His uncle worked for Celestion at the time, when he got it, he was told to leave it for a couple days to let all the glue dry before he played it,.

I've had it about 3 years now and had it in a Deluxe reverb, and a couple of different tone kings, It seems to make everything I put it in sound better.

Bygone_Tones

nero1701 said:

Truth is they were actually Ipswich made, 

The Thames Ditton factory closed down in 1975. They only have those labels on them to replicate the 1960's labels. 

Fwiw the G12-EVH speaker is supposedly the same as the 20w heritage, just with a different label on it. So in that sense you can still buy them.

nero1701

Bygone_Tones said:

nero1701 said:

Truth is they were actually Ipswich made, 

The Thames Ditton factory closed down in 1975. They only have those labels on them to replicate the 1960's labels. 

Fwiw the G12-EVH speaker is supposedly the same as the 20w heritage, just with a different label on it. So in that sense you can still buy them.

Wasn't aware, thanks :-)