the eventide pitchfactor

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TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 8016
edited November 2015 in FX
Um. It's a bit shit. I mean it does lots of cool things.. just very badly. The tracking is pants. Which is nice if you want screwed up glitch city but not so good if you actually want good tracking.

Must be doing something wrong.

Noticed that firmware is v3 and 5.02 is the latest so that should help. Anyone else used one of these dogs?
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 4032
    Totally the opposite of my thoughts, I though it was amazing. Tracked great!

    How hot is the signal going in? Putting it after a volume pedal can make life difficult sometimes
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  • It's been many years since I had one but I wasn't impressed. It hasn't got the fun bits of gear like the H3000. The Timefactor, Space, and Modfactor were really good but the Pitchfactor just missed the mark. 
    What can be asserted without evidence can also be ignored with impunity. 


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  • @joeyowen

    I'm going direct from the guitar into the pitchfactor then direct into the amp.

    It really, really lags. lots of warble and gliss as it tries to find the notes. The only algorithm that seems to work is the Octaver.

    Been looking at the eventide forum and it seems that the pedal can be set at different tunings and for different instruments, so I will check that mine has not been set to something odd (it's a 2nd hand item).

    Do you drive yours with a compressor?
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 4032
    Nopes don't think I did, it was years ago I had one!

    Maybe the tuning is out, worth a try.  It just don't ever remember having an issue

    I uesd it for Octs, harmonies and harmony delays

    All was fine, but it was many years ago, maybe I'm just blanking out the errors ha
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  • If I were you I'd reset factory settings, then install the latest firmware and go from there. Hard to believe it's pap given how exceptional the Space is.
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  • If I were you I'd reset factory settings, then install the latest firmware and go from there. Hard to believe it's pap given how exceptional the Space is.
    Yup, that's the plan - new firmware is only a few months old, so hopefully things have improved.
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 4032
    Eventide don't release shit really, all of it is goooood quality!
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  • kjdowdkjdowd Frets: 852
    Don't like any of the eventide stuff. Just don't think it sounds right to me. I totally appreciate this is a personal thing, and I don't have a problem with digital stuff generally, but had an h9 and couldn't get on with it at all.
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  • longilongi Frets: 99
    edited November 2015
    Stick it in the effects loop if your amp has one, it should make a vast improvement. Pitch effects don't like going into the front of an amp for some reason.
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  • longi said:
    Stick it in the effects loop if your amp has one, it should make a vast improvement. Pitch effects don't like going into the front of an amp for some reason.

    disagree strongly
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  • longi said:
    Stick it in the effects loop if your amp has one, it should make a vast improvement. Pitch effects don't like going into the front of an amp for some reason.

    disagree strongly
    and what do you know about pitch effects? :-P
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • meltedbuzzbox;870252" said:
    GavRichList said:



    longi said:

    Stick it in the effects loop if your amp has one, it should make a vast improvement. Pitch effects don't like going into the front of an amp for some reason.







    disagree strongly





    and what do you know about pitch effects? :-P
    Well exactly; I barely ever use them
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  • next you will be offering opinions about delays
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • Get out of town. I don't even have a pedalboard.
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  • Get out of town. I don't even have a pedalboard.
    to be fair that is almost accurate 

    its a small Eastern European city (it probably has more power too)
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • longilongi Frets: 99
    GavRichList;870143" said:
    longi said:

    Stick it in the effects loop if your amp has one, it should make a vast improvement. Pitch effects don't like going into the front of an amp for some reason.







    disagree strongly
    Every harmonizer I've tried in the front of an amp sounded like a ring modulator! They also can be a bit funny in an effects loop depending on the pedal order.

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  • Well I updated the version last night to 5.2 and the difference is huge now it tracks properly and has pre / post routing which is awesome, so it can go in front of the amp and in the loop :)

    Actually it's going to go in-front of the amp and in the loop of the mf-104

    Need to hook it up with an expression pedal and see if the whammy is as good as a whammy, which will mean i can move my whammy to the gigging board :)

    Must admit I've always put pitch effects before the amp, pitchfork, whammy, ps-3, oc-3 etc never had any issues.
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  • Good to see its straightened out now.
    I wouldn't stick it in the loop of the Moog though, it seems like a waste of a monstrous pedal
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • TeetonetalTeetonetal Frets: 8016
    edited November 2015
    @meltedbuzzox Ah but that's the beauty. With the last firmware update the all eventides have pre/post routing on a per patch basis.

    So you use 4 cables. 2 in the regular chain and 2 in the fx loop of an amp or fx pedal loop (eg mf104 or super ego)

    Then when you change patch the pedal moves into the correct position, whilst maintaining the dry through of the other position.

    It's genius.

    Song 1 could use it as a whammy before the amp, Song 2 as a reverse octave doubler in the feedback loop of the moog :)

    All the eventide range now do this @Gavhaus were you aware? means your Space can be in two places in your chain....

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