Chord Of The Week 10/8/13 : E /E7

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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    bigjon said:
    Clarky said:
    999999 E 6add9
    naaahhh ! ! lol..

    with the 6th in the bass, what inversion is that... ??
    It's good with the open E in the bass though
    E6add9: 099999
    hmmm... just tried it...
    the Diezel VH4 and 5150 mk3 just complained.. and bitterly so too..

    I actually felt the need to apologise to them and promise never to do it again
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    edited August 2013
    double post
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    edited August 2013
    jeez... triple post
    I don't even know how that happened...
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • bigjonbigjon Frets: 680
    bigjon said:
    bigjon said:
    Here's a good power-chordy version of a full E chord, works well with a crunch sound:
    E: 026xxx

    I think the reason this works well is it voiced with the root at the bottom, the fifth next up, and the 3rd sitting on top[. . .]
    Whereas as Shawn Lane skips a string between the root and the fifth, which I prefer:
    Esus4: 12 x 9 14 x x
    E: 12 x 9 13 x x
    A similar arrangement for E7 sounds great if you replace the fifth with the seventh, good with a Strat on the neck pickup and a tubescreamer, à la SRV. 
    E7sus4: 12 x 12 14 x x
    E7: 12 x 12 13 x x
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    E7: 022434
    E9: 076777
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    this is one I adore

    E7 in 3rd inv 
    which is E/D: x5999x

    typical use in the good ol' days [as in the early 1700's] would have been

    E/D -> Am/C -> E7/B -> Am
    E/D: x5999x
    Am/C: x3x555
    E7/B: x22434
    Am: x0x333

    or something like this
    E/D -> Am/C -> E5 add7/G# -> Am

    or sexier
    E/D -> Am/C -> Bdim/G# [which is E7 b9 in 1st inv] -> Am
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  • bigjonbigjon Frets: 680
    Clarky;9908"

    E7 in 3rd inv which is E/D: x5999x

    In more recent history, this inversion (in a slightly different arrangement) has seen service in the key of F#m in Mr Big's 'Had enough' - 
    E/D: 10 x 9 9 9 x
    This can be toggled with Dmaj7 10 x 11 11 10 x as in the chorus of 'Physical' by Olivia Newton John
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  • bigjonbigjon Frets: 680
    edited August 2013
    Duplicate post
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261

    I love this whole "7th in the bass" thing

    in fact, I adore goofing with inversions..

    they can add so much more power / emotion to chord progressions

     

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  • @Clarky isn't Bdim/G# just G#dim7?
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    edited August 2013
    @Clarky isn't Bdim/G# just G#dim7?


    I wrote it that way cos when reading chord charts it's faster / easier to read

    the chord is actually functioning as chord V7b in Am [given the progession I've shown it in]

    the actual chord is E7 add b9 in 1st inv

    EDIT: note that the 'b' in V7b means 1st inversion and not 'flat'

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  • Clarky said:
    999999 E 6add9
    naaahhh ! ! lol..

    with the 6th in the bass, what inversion is that... ??

    that's C#m7 with an added 11th.. and with the C# in the bass it sounds like one too..
    or a better name would be F#11 in 2nd inv

    sorry dude... yellow card for that one..
    I didn't say it was a good one...

    I just remembered that from my first chord book.  Same fingering was under G 6add9, Em11 and an A, but I can't remember which one.
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  • ClarkyClarky Frets: 3261
    in that case you need to cascade the yellow card back to the writer of the book...
    play every note as if it were your first
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  • bigjonbigjon Frets: 680
    bigjon said:
    bigjon said:
    E7 - 0767xx
    Now let's look at the various ways this E7 can be extended when leading into an A or Am chord in a V-I progression. So far we have a root in string5 (and a low root on string6), a 3rd on string4 and a 7th on string3. If you're wondering where the 5th has gone, it might get added later on the top string (fret7) but it might not - it's not essential for an E7 chord.
        Let's start with the extra notes we can add on string2, beginning with just the root repeated
    E7: 07675x
    It sounds fine followed by an Amaj7 or Am chord, by a bit dull. Let's spice it up by moving the note on string2 up one fret at a time - 
    E7b9: 07676x
    E9: 07677x
    E7#9: 07678x (the Hendrix chord again, but this time used as a V chord in the key of A)
    Next note after (fret9) is a G# again, which is already in the chord as a 3rd
    We can use the same approach to generate 5 more E7-into-A chords by using the A-shaped E7 chord from the CAGED system, which shares the same root at the 7th fret of the 5th string as the C-shaped E7 0767xx. The basic shape before extensions is
    E7: 07x79x
    And we can extend this cell on the same principle as before along the top string using frets 6(the note above the sus4) to 9 (the note before the 7th) as follows - 
    E7b5: 07x796
    E7: 07x797
    E7#5: 07x798
    E7add13: 07x799
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  • bigjonbigjon Frets: 680
    bigjon said:
    We can use the same approach to generate 5 more E7-into-A chords by using the A-shaped E7 chord from the CAGED system, which shares the same root at the 7th fret of the 5th string as the C-shaped E7 0767xx. The basic shape before extensions is
    E7: 07x79x
    And we can extend this cell on the same principle as before along the top string using frets 6(the note above the sus4) to 9 (the note before the 7th) as follows - 
    E7b5: 07x796
    E7: 07x797
    E7#5: 07x798
    E7add13: 07x799
    The same extensions can be added an octave down, which makes for interestingly dense-sounding voicings:
    E7b5: 07879x
    E7: 07979x
    E7#5: 0 7 10 7 9 x
    E7add13: 0 7 11 7 9 x
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  • bigjonbigjon Frets: 680
    edited August 2013
    bigjon said:
    The same extensions can be added an octave down, which makes for interestingly dense-sounding voicings:
    E7b5: 07879x
    E7: 07979x
    E7#5: 0 7 10 7 9 x
    E7add13: 0 7 11 7 9 x

    Exactly the same voicings can be played around a D-shaped E7 chord located at the 2nd fret -
    E7b5: 0x2334
    E7: 0x2434
    E7#5: 0x2534
    E7add13: 0x2634
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  • bigjonbigjon Frets: 680
    Ok, different theme coming up, let's put some more bluesy dominant extensions into the pot. I'll start with this Robben Ford-esque groovetastic E9sus4 to E9 move B-)

    E9sus4: 0 x 12 11 10 12
    E9: 0 x 12 11 9 12
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  • vizviz Frets: 10681
    0 2 4 10 11 14
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5700
    viz said:
    0 2 4 10 11 14
    slightly awkward fingering, but I reckon I'll have it down by tomorrow......

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • vizviz Frets: 10681
    I think I meant 0 2 4 11 12 14 anyway! I've never been very good at fret numbers.
    Roland said: Scales are primarily a tool for categorising knowledge, not a rule for what can or cannot be played.
    Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
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