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So I've got a Brunetti NEO1512, with a 12" cel' V30 and Jensen 15". It sounds bloody lovely.
I'd like to use it live but not sure if it'll be more hassle than its worth.
With a lot of gigs we tend to cab share with other bands, when most people us a 4x12, meaning for ease of sharing I either take my Marshall, or use someone elses cab. But with new amp, the Brunetti just has THAT sound, so I want to start using it properly.
I have no idea how to best mic the cab (or advise varying competence of sound men) to reproduce the sound through the PA.
The most obvious solution seems to be just getting an sm57 on the V30. But then I'll loose the nice low end that comes from the Jensen.
any idea / advice?
is it going to be too pretentious of me, and piss of said soundman?
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Sitting at front of house mixing your band, it is most likely that the bass end of your set up will be missed in the mix due to the space the bass guitar and other instruments occupy, but again if the soundman is aware of what you want the guitar to sound like then he/she will/should do their best to reproduce it.
So in one statement talk to the sound guy well befor the gig and tell them what you want
If they're lazy they'll be pissed off that they have to set up another mic. If they're smart but desperately trying to get the stage set up quickly they'll be pissed off at the extra time and the extra care they'll need to take with the placement of both mics to ensure phase coherence and that both channels are of the same polarity. Not that it can't work well, just telling you what to expect. It's much easier to mess up the tone with a two mic setup due to comb filtering if the distances aren't right.
Personally, I'd be happy with just a mic on the V30. With an open backed cab you get a lot more low end at the speaker than you do from even just a few feet further on front because of the way open backed cabs project sound, then you've also got the proximity effect of the mic giving you more low end as well. What's more, the frequency response and general tone variabilities of the different PA setups, rooms and even soundmen's different mixing tastes mean that anything from the mic forward is a total crapshoot anyway.
I long ago learned that on that kind of gig I need to get the sound I want coming from the amp behind me but that anything from the mic onwards is just down to chance and ultimately beyond your control unless you're hiring your own crew..
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Personally as a guitarist I wouldn't bother with the extra speaker as I know most guys mixing don't like too much low end of guitars, and will probably hi pass it anyway which would defeat the object anyway
1 - the FOH sound can easily bear no real relation to the cab sound anyway, given that close-mic'ing never sounds like the whole cab and the soundman can alter it drastically just by turning a knob, so mic the V30 and don't worry about it any more.
2 - the opposite, ask the soundman nicely if he could mic both speakers. It's no more work than mic'ing two guitarists really - apart from possible phasing issues, which shouldn't be hard to deal with if the speakers aren't very similar-sounding. They may still get grumpy though.
3 - Do it all yourself… take your own mics and stands (or cab-mounting clamps) and set them up yourself, and use a mic mixer so the soundman still only has to deal with a single feed. A passive 2-into-1 combiner will be fine for two SM57s, you don't need anything fancy.
(4 - use a DI/emulator. No-one out front will notice.)
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Next step I guess is choosing how
1) Inline DI - radial JDX or Palmer stuff.
2) save the full hog and get a TNtorpedo live
3) go for a helix/fractal with 4cm to amp and use IRs (could sell off the strymons to part fund this option)
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