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- Weight - I've got a custom thats about 10-11 pounds, sounds great but far to heavy
- Heel - WTF is this still this cumbersome
- No belly cut - as I'm, ahem, a larger gent without the cut it sits at an odd angle when on a strap
While I still like my two LP's I did the following to solve the issues:- PRS 594
- Feline Lion
Issues are now gone - granted the 594 does not sound exactly the same but it's closeEase of play and manageable weight are the factors i look for as long as the sound is there
However building my own take on them with the Lion model made the difference (to me)
Many guitars have a re-sale value. Some you'll never want to sell.
Stockist of: Earvana & Graphtech nuts, Faber Tonepros & Gotoh hardware, Fatcat bridges. Highwood Saddles.
Pickups from BKP, Oil City & Monty's pickups.
Expert guitar repairs and upgrades - fretwork our speciality! www.felineguitars.com. Facebook too!
1984 Dot reissue, 100% mint with original Tim Shaws fitted, might be available ;-)
The "right" angle is bobbins. If the tailpiece was designed to be decked, it wouldn't have been designed to be adjustable in height and it was. QED.
As for this statement about them not sounding "good" when the tailpiece isn't decked... thats crap. Utter crap. My own Goldtop isn't decked and I don't think anyone who's heard it would say it doesn't sound 'good' - in fact most say it sounds great/amazing. You are welcome to play/hear it at the Northampton Jam for yourself if you are available.
This business of neck angle vs sound/playability isn't a hard and fast fact - despite internet "wisdom". I've played plenty of Les Pauls that sound uninspiring that are 'perfect' in these regards and plenty that are great that aren't. You are welcome to choose your own guitar based on whatever criteria you want (including neck angles, tailpiece height etc) but do not cast aspertions against those that don't fit your vision.
:-)
Many guitars have a re-sale value. Some you'll never want to sell.
Stockist of: Earvana & Graphtech nuts, Faber Tonepros & Gotoh hardware, Fatcat bridges. Highwood Saddles.
Pickups from BKP, Oil City & Monty's pickups.
Expert guitar repairs and upgrades - fretwork our speciality! www.felineguitars.com. Facebook too!
I will say that all the really high end LP style guitars that I see, all have a shallow neck angle/low bridge, and most of the lower end guitars have much steeper neck angle/high bridge. It is easier to make it on the steep side, then raising the bridge will accommodate it. The steep angle takes the need for accuracy out of the process I suppose. Building with a shallower angle you are walking a fine line of having very little room for manoeuvre. What is the reason all these high end builders go for that shallow neck angle? Also, all the golden era Gibsons seem to have a much shallower neck angle. Why is that?
I would not personally buy an LP with a steep neck angle/high bridge anyway, but each to their own.
Also, the vintage bridge pickup ring is waaay higher than the current Standard/Traditional one, you wouldn't get it under the strings with a significantly reduced neck angle. Indeed, some late-50s sunbursts DO have deep scoring on the pickup ring from the strings, proving that a shallow neck angle is by no means "correct". On the contrary, those guitars are borderline faulty.
Some people will always see anything which isn't exactly the same as a '59 as wrong, even things which make no difference, and the flatter belly of 50's guitars and Historics compared to Standards makes a nonsense of neck angles anyway.
I can tell the sonic difference between a decked and non-decked tailpiece under some circumstances, but you can mimic the effect exactly by placing spacers underneath the tailpiece. It's not the position of the tailpiece but the fact that it's screwed tight to the body which matters, and that's a five minute fix.
Whole forums are dedicated to this pointless minutiae on Les Pauls though, but ask an SG player about top-wrapping, bumble bee caps or truss rod condoms and he'll say "Eh? Got any fags mate only I don't get me Jobseekers til Thursday, this one's in A by the way."
This is not Gibson hating by the way. I own several Gibsons, and dearly love them.
re. The Tailpiece being decked and tone, I am none the wiser as to what is going on. Tried washers on a guitar in the past and not convinced it worked. You can mute the strings between the bridge and tailpiece while playing, and it does not affect the sound of the guitar at all, i.e. No vibration going through the strings beyond the bridge, so why would coupling of the tailpiece to the body make any difference? So how and why it all affects tone is beyond me.
More recently I have no idea, my 2012 Trad isn't too high and I didn't really notice anything remarkable about the couple of dozen I tried while shopping.
If you don't like the steeply angled ones that's fine, but I can't say I've noticed a common tonal theme among them personally, like most other Gibsons, they seem to be all over the place!
And the whole top wrapping thing - I thought the reason that Mr Allman did that was because he was having problems with the angles....
And look at JoBo’s original Goldtop had to be top wrapped due to the angles too (that’s what JB claimed in early interviews.
I bought my first Les Paul on eBay...
Seller's photos;
a 2000 Samick Korea Plant/Factory Epiphone Les Paul Standard.that I had @FelineGuitars rebuild...
I love that Les Paul.
It had a broken neck.
I really love my 1996 Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul Standard Red Sparkle Top/Dark Back.
It has a thinner neck and is a chambered guitar.
and my most recent purchase...
A 2005 Gibson Les Paul Standard R7 Gold Top/Dark Back.
My guitars tonight/just now.
I swapped over the toggle switches knob heads, and love it like that on both guitars.
My red guitar has gotten redder like a cosmic mystical 'blood red'/like a jewel of a toggle switch, and my Gold Top/dark back now looks way cool!
This Gold Top wouldn't be here if it didn't sound sexy unplugged because, that's how to hear the guitar, is unplugged.
It's all wood/solid heavy and it's got all the right shapes, light reflections and shadows.
I type this post, and look over to it/them (My Gibsons)... Because they're so beautiful, all of them/both of them have the same 'belly' as I like to call it, and this guitar, now that I've had my way with it today, having the pickups I want installed, looks like and sounds like the guitar I dreamed about since wanting to play on anybody's guitar.
As I was leaving, I remembered to ask if it was chambered (expecting the gentleman who served me to say it was 'because of the year it was built') and he said no. Sure enough... It's a heavy guitar, also what I wanted. - This was after they kindly put in the pickups I like and the straplock system that I like... I'm so happy I got my new used guitar (I don't really have enough money to buy them new but... I could buy a nice new guitar for the same money, but I'm fussy for what I want, there are a lot of great used guitars out there/In London/the world that I couldn't buy brand new/that I want/with my budget)... I just save money like that as I can toast my shopping list done.
When I got my 1999/2000 American Fender Deluxe Stratocaster, I became a Gibson Guy who had a Fender if ever that was a title to have; Though nice guitars because I do love Fender & Gibson; today 'yesterday' (haven't gone to bed yet) by chance.. - Confirmed it; but it's all good.